Cruella 'action comedy' 'set in 1970s London amidst the punk rock revolution

[editor]

This looks pretty shit. From Disney

Cruella' is set in 1970s London amidst the punk rock revolution and follows a young grifter named Estella, a clever and creative girl determined to make a name for herself with her designs. She befriends a pair of young thieves who appreciate her appetite for mischief, and together they are able to build a life for themselves on the London streets. One day, Estella's flair for fashion catches the eye of the Baroness von Hellman, a fashion legend who is devastatingly chic and terrifyingly haute, but their relationship sets in motion a course of events and revelations that will cause Estella to embrace her wicked side and become the raucous, fashionable and revenge-bent Cruella.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I mean I will probably watch that, as my diary this year is pretty clear at the moment for some reason.

 

[editor]

I mean I will probably watch that, as my diary this year is pretty clear at the moment for some reason.

Me too. I've watched so much crap recently out of boredom.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Broadly supportive of the punky/goth roots of Cruella being dialled up ineptly by people who don't know what they are on about.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

I just watch bigfoot documentaries these days. They still aint found one....

 

[cybershot]

Looks like a shit joker.

 

[NoXion]

I get that there are some villains who can be portrayed in a more sympathetic light, or who can otherwise be made the focus of the story in a way that's entertaining, like what they did in Joker.

But Deville is a character who literally steals a bunch of puppies from a loving family, when she could have legally bought them from someone else. I don't understand how one could possibly recast such a character without twisting her completely out of recognition. If she doesn't want to skin someone's beloved pets, then what exactly makes here Cruella Deville?

 

[wtfftw]

Sad to see it's not a musical.

 

[High Voltage]

Sad to see it's not a musical.

On Ice

 

[ska invita]

Sad to see it's not a musical.

they dont make em like this any more

 

[Steel Icarus]

On Ice

Like Walt

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I get that there are some villains who can be portrayed in a more sympathetic light, or who can otherwise be made the focus of the story in a way that's entertaining, like what they did in Joker.

But Deville is a character who literally steals a bunch of puppies from a loving family, when she could have legally bought them from someone else. I don't understand how one could possibly recast such a character without twisting her completely out of recognition. If she doesn't want to skin someone's beloved pets, then what exactly makes here Cruella Deville?

I thought what they did with malnificent was a fun idea but I can't see that working here, mainly for it's more contemporary and less magical/mythical setting/set up. . . . And of course the reasons you mentioned above.

 

[hitmouse]

Does anyone else get the trailer autoplaying when opening this thread? Might want to turn that off for the benefit of anyone who might be absent-mindedly opening tabs while in a Teams meeting with their line manager, hypothetically speaking of course.

 

[T & P]

Looks like a shit joker.

I think 'a shit Birds of Prey' is a closer fit.

 

[hitmouse]

So, has everyone heard about Cruella's big plot point?

Spoiler

From here:
Cruella lurches through a painfully long first-act where we have to go all the way back to the childhood of Estella (Emma Stone), a girl with a rebellious streak, black-and-white hair, and raised by a kindly mother. Her mother cautions her daughter not to give in to her dark side, dubbed “Cruella”. When her mother is knocked over a cliff by dalmatians who were chasing young Estella, the child feels responsible. Growing up an orphan on the streets of London, she meets fellow strays Jasper (Joel Fry) and Horace (Paul Walter Hauser), and they form a trio of grifters, but Estella longs to be a fashion designer on the level of the glamorous Baroness (Emma Thompson). When Estella finally gets her shot, she’s ecstatic (despite the Baroness’ casual cruelty) until she learns that the Baroness used a dog whistle to call the dalmatians that purposefully knocked Estella’s mother off a cliff, so Estella vows revenge. I am not making any of this up.

 

[A380]

Saw it today, hoped it would be ok and mildly entertaining.

it was bloody brilliant, far better than it needed to be and the best Disney film for a long time. Some great performances. Much better than Mallificent.

I felt it was surprisingly a top film. Will watch again and would recommend. Ignore the above negative ‘reviews’ from people who haven’t actually seen it.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I'll probably watch it just for the art direction. Some films are more interesting on that point than on their plot or dialogue.

Also, I sometimes enjoy movies just because they're bad. This looks promising.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I thought what they did with malnificent was a fun idea but I can't see that working here, mainly for it's more contemporary and less magical/mythical setting/set up. . . . And of course the reasons you mentioned above.

I've been to the 1970s. They were pretty magical.

 

[mauvais]

I watched it tonight. I am not a fan of Disney or origin stories or any other cash-making franchise shit.

However, it was very good and very fun. Emma Stone is excellent.

 

[tim]

I've been to the 1970s. They were pretty magical.

Sadly though, it was David Nixon magical

 

[Reno]

It's not bad, better than most (probably all) of the Disney live action reboots/prequels/remakes of their animated classics. It works had to be more edgy than any of these films and Emma Stone is very good in the lead, but in the end it still feels too formulaic.

 

[bemused]

Destroyed one of the classic Disney bad guys. It's even that good.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

How do they deal with her growing up to being a bit of an arsehole and wanting to kill all those puppies for a coat?

 

[Artaxerxes]

How do they deal with her growing up to being a bit of an arsehole and wanting to kill all those puppies for a coat?

She was very sad uwu.

 

[Reno]

How do they deal with her growing up to being a bit of an arsehole and wanting to kill all those puppies for a coat?

Spoiler

Same as with Maleficent, the fact that she turns evil gets sidestepped. She turns mad but not quite bad. A fake Dalmatian coat makes an appearance but I suppose the idea is that by the end of the film she still has at least a decade to turn into the Cruella de Vil from 101 Dalmatians, so they can make a sequel. The whole thing why she supposedly hates Dalmatians is muddled.

 

[tim]

Why would anyone want to watch this tedious derivative shit?

 

[JuanTwoThree]

Sad to see it's not a musical.

I wanna wear your dog

 

[tommers]

My daughter keeps hassling to see it so I guess we will. Glad to hear it's not awful.

 

[tim]

My daughter keeps hassling to see it so I guess we will. Glad to hear it's not awful.

Don't kid yourself. if. It will be.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Ah I see. This is the

Spoiler

Same as with Maleficent, the fact that she turns evil it's sidestepped. She turns mad but not quite bad. A fake Dalmatian coat makes an appearance but I suppose the idea is that by the end of the film she still has at least a decade to turn into the Cruella de Vil from 101 Dalmatians, so they can make a sequel. The whole thing why she supposedly hates Dalmatians is muddled.

This is the only aspect that had me irritated by the idea.
I thought malnificent was ok though, it retells some of the origin from her point of view and exposes some lies/misconceptions and you can understand her later actions.

Not sure that I can see this working in the one dimensional Disney cruella. Obviously it can still be an enjoyable film, but I think it's one of those things that will niggle me. (I'm not great at getting past small details like this).