Crown and Anchor pub, Brixton Road, Brixton goes card-only
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Are you really telling me at the point you’ve explained you don’t have a card on you, they are just about to chuck the drink they’ve already poured away ?
Alex
Rushy
basically a scrotum
Conversely, I was in Heidelberg on the weekend. Surprised to find that not a single bar, restaurant, market stall, cafe, public pool I went into took cards. There was a train strike on Monday so I had to get a cab to Frankfurt airport. They did accept credit card ... but their iPad app didn't work!
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
Yeah Germany is bizarrely behind in that respect. Their internet coverage is terrible too.
Rushy
basically a scrotum
That's exactly what my mate said when I mentioned it!
First time I've been in a heavily smokey bar for a while too. I can safely say that I don't miss it!
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hiraethified
That's great. So happy you had a lovely time.
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hiraethified
I've seen bars take away drinks from customers when their cards are declined PLENTY of times.
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hiraethified
So that makes five, four of which are owned by the same guy. What do you think of the arguments against card-only policies presented by the likes of Age UK etc?
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
I heard about another in Suffolk whilst googling this , so there are probably a fair few more - there's a bakery in Clapton that is card only as well. Personally it doesn't bother me as I use a lot less cash nowadays and usually pay by card in pubs (although my card broke and I'm waiting for a new one so I am back using cash at the moment
) I can understand why a business would go card only - it's a lot less hassle, but they are ignoring a still significant (but reducing) cash economy - and yes, older people use cash more , my late dad would have been outraged if he couldn't pay in cash - he never used a credit card/debit card or any card in his life and died about 3 years ago.
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hiraethified
it doesn't effect me personally, but it definitely affects people in my community - particularly the poorer and older members - and that's why I think it should be resisted and condemned. Most pubs aren't like regular shops: they've often played a key role in the community for decades - and owe their existence to that community support - and can provide a vital place for people of all ages to relax and socialise.I heard about another in Suffolk whilst googling this , so there are probably a fair few more - there's a bakery in Clapton that is card only as well. Personally it doesn't bother me as I use a lot less cash nowadays and usually pay by card in pubs (although my card broke and I'm waiting for a new one so I am back using cash at the moment
You'll see loads of old boys paying cash at the bar in pubs and I think it sucks that they've been excluded just to make a profitable pub chain's life a little bit easier - and it must hurt even more when it happens in an area that has precious few pubs left within walking distance.
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hiraethified
They weren't one of the very few bars that forces customers to use cards only but - to repeat seeing as you seem to have trouble letting this sink in - I've seen bars take away drinks from customers when their cards are declined PLENTY of times. It's not unusual at all. If you can't pay they take it away (and, sadly, often throw it away down the sink).
Mr Retro
Beware hedgehogs
Ya I’m in Sweden regularity and I’ve never taken cash. You simply don’t need it there and there are lots of places where you can’t use it at all.
It’s the way it’s going to be almost everywhere in the next decade or so I think.
To repeat myself I hope the infrastructure is put in place alongside this change so nobody is left behind. Im not sure it will.
Yes, it’s normal to not let people have things they can’t pay for.
It’s not normal to refuse to sell someone something who is able to and trying to buy it.
I bet they have a plan b, what happens when the internet stops working do they close the pub or start taking cash ?
Alex
Mr Retro
Beware hedgehogs
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hiraethified
From their website, written in bold text and capitals and supported by posters around the pub:
Maybe they're only joking and take cash after all. What a tease!
T & P
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Many people don't want to carry cash for a number of reasons either, or (from time to time at least) cannot use cash at the particular time when they're hoping to buy the goods or use the services of a particular retailer- for instance by the extraordinarly common occurrence of running out of cash in your wallet, or simply not carrying enough.
In fact I'd be willing to bet that considerably higher numbers of people are inconvenienced on a daily basis by cash-only retailers than by cashless retailers. You might either believe it is the right of the business owner to implement such policy if they see it fit, or believe it is out of order and amounts to a 'fuck you' to the customer. But if you believe the latter, you'd better also criticise cash-only retailers, because it seems to me not just as objectionable as card-only retailrs, but arguably far more so.
Couldn’t agree more. Let’s be honest, the reason why lots of retailers prefer cash is so they don’t have to declare it all.
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
Apple Pay launched here this week and people have lost their minds. Pay with a phone wtf
Even 'contactless' here means entering your pin still. It's odd.
Rushy
basically a scrotum
Are you in Germany?Apple Pay launched here this week and people have lost their minds. Pay with a phone wtf
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hiraethified
You'll say anything rather than admit that those being hit hardest by pubs operating a card-only policy are most likely to be those on low pay, the elderly and other disenfranchised groups.
Why are you such a apologists for the bosses? Why don't you give a fuck about the minority of people in your community who are likely to be excluded by such policies?
The way this board keeps lurching to the right is fucking embarrassing and depressing.
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
Yep. Moved here from South London a couple of years ago.
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hiraethified
I've mentioned this card-only policy to quite a few people around Brixton. Almost everyone has immediately expressed concern for a variety of reasons and a feeling that the landlord is being out of order for forcing this inconvenient policy on locals. Most understand that it'll be those at the lower end of the income scale, and the elderly etc who would be likely to be adversely affected.
Contrast that with the response here, where barely a soul has expressed a hint of criticism for the bosses, offering all manner of distracting and irrelevant excuses as justification for the policy.
Contrast that with the response here, where barely a soul has expressed a hint of criticism for the bosses, offering all manner of distracting and irrelevant excuses as justification for the policy.
TruXta
tired
Simply untrue. Even disco said he wasn't in favour ffs.
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hiraethified
Saying you're not in favour whilst spinning reams and reams of excuses, unrelated case studies and caveats that make the decision look reasonable, fair and fine and something that should just be accepted is not the same as condemning the policy,' however you'd like to try and spin it.
TruXta
tired
God forbid anyone tries to put anything into context eh?
T & P
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I am no more of an apologist for any boss than you are, nor I give any more or less of a fuck than you about people. I have simply argued throughout that the accusations levelled against this pub for going cashless, and the likely consequences of such policy on the local community have been exaggerated and upgraded in here from a mildly annoying inconvenience to a grave social injustice for the purpose of making this particular pub look as odious as possible.
Believe it or not I don’t care one jot for the pub in question, but as part and parcel of the basic nature of an Internet forum, where people exchange views on various subjects, I make no excuse for commenting on an issue being discussed. Claims that a differing opinion must be politically motivated or suggest anyone being an apologist for the business owner are both unjustified and wrong, in my case at least.
Anyway, I think this is the right point to agree to disagree.
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Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I've asked Discobastard to clarify as his post on this issue is contradictory. He doesn't get back.
Its not about context.
ShiftyBagLady
Thinks she is a flower to be looked at
I see this as a sign of the gentrifiers creating a hostile environment for local communities. I used to live down that end of Brixton and when they set up and took over the pavement and consequently the entrance to the park I knew they were trouble... lo and behold, they've now got a curryhouse opposite their boozer, giving interviews to national press about how dangerous it is for people to carry cash?
Yeah. Great little local business.
Yeah. Great little local business.
