citydreams
on the road again
hiccup said:The next one is on Friday 28th, in case anyone is wondering. Any other urban people fancy it?
With bells on!
Think it's going to be a particularly noisy one too
hiccup said:The next one is on Friday 28th, in case anyone is wondering. Any other urban people fancy it?
newbie said:Does it? the operative bit of the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act says:
(2) The behaviour referred to in subsection (1) is any behaviour which has or could have any of the following results—
(a) hindering any person from entering or leaving the Palace of
Westminster,
(b) hindering the proper operation of Parliament, or
(c) spoiling the visual aspect, or otherwise spoiling the enjoyment by
members of the public, of any part of the designated area.
S123 of this pdf
So do cyclists really spoil the visual aspect or what?
Doesn't matter, the relevant law (s12 POA 1986) applies to both.poet said:It's not a demonstration, it's a cycling tour of the city .
citydreams said:Budapest, Hungary has experienced its greatest Critical Mass bike ride ever on September 22, 2005. Estimates range between 24,000 and 30,000. This would therefore also make it one of the greatest Critical Mass rides in history.
http://www.indymedia.org/en/2005/09/825163.shtml
whistle posse make some noise
No, they are wrong because those new laws do not apply to public processions (s132 (3) SOCPA 2005). They are also potentially wrong about the need to give notice since for the purpose of the relevant law (s11 POA 1986) the procession has to be to demonstrate support for (or opposition to) some other people, publicising a cause, or commemorating an event. However, they are right that they can impose conditions on processions (s12 POA 1986 and in exceptional circumstances s13).Attica said:Hmmm - they are right!! The new law does mean that Critical Mass passing within 1/2 mile of Parliament is illegal.
newbie said:Does it? the operative bit of the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act says:
(2) The behaviour referred to in subsection (1) is any behaviour which has or could have any of the following results—
(a) hindering any person from entering or leaving the Palace of
Westminster,
(b) hindering the proper operation of Parliament, or
(c) spoiling the visual aspect, or otherwise spoiling the enjoyment by
members of the public, of any part of the designated area.
cemertyone said:If the last C.M. was the 26th.....what was the re-action from the police...any one have any first hand reports?????
I looked at the C.M. web site but there does not seem to be any thing mentioned.
amigiac said:The September mass was great, the only trouble from the police was in Parliament Sq when we cycled around and around a bit excessively, they blocked the road and after a while we went a different way.
The police were just the same as always, one even appologised to me for the letter saying it came from above and he didn't aggree with it, I'm sure they will soon change their minds if they get fresh orders though.
Don't think so, they probably had permission.newbie said:was anyone on this protest nicked?
London cycling campaign branches often arrange "ride-to-mass" things.Bristly Pioneer said:Plus for all newbie cyclists, it would mean they could travel to the mass with company too. CM is a great way to learn to cycle in the city, but you have to get your bike into central London first which is quite daunting.
Bristly Pioneer said:I have had my thinking hat on, and come up with an idea.
Perhaps what critical mass needs is multiple meeting points, which converge on waterloo bridge at 6pm. I mean multiple as in a dozen or so, not just an east west etc. This would get around a number of problems, and spread police thinly.
Plus for all newbie cyclists, it would mean they could travel to the mass with company too. CM is a great way to learn to cycle in the city, but you have to get your bike into central London first which is quite daunting.
When exactly does "cycling down the road when a bunch of other people are cycling down the road" become illegal?Attica said:The new law does mean that Critical Mass passing within 1/2 mile of Parliament is illegal.
I was also wondering whether joining the (very) ongoing demonstration at parliament square would be illegal.Attica said:It would be better to try to link up with a legal demo already occuring... That would show up the law...
Bristly Pioneer said:Perhaps what critical mass needs is multiple meeting points, which converge on waterloo bridge at 6pm. I mean multiple as in a dozen or so, not just an east west etc. This would get around a number of problems, and spread police thinly.