COVID-19 in America

[8ball]

That’s counterintuitive, as elsewhere Republican talking heads are actively discouraging vaccination in order to boost the death toll and prolong the pandemic so they can use it as a stick to beat Biden with. Hiding the deaths doesn’t help this agenda.

It's not as simple as all Republicans doing this, though. Things aren't quite as simply split on those lines. Republicans are generally older and a lot of them are pretty sane and pro-vaccine.

 

[_Russ_]

Not really, the prevailing Republican-wackos' takes on this range from it being not worth losing sleep over to not even existing, this fits perfectly with that narrative

 

[High Voltage]

Bloody hell 572,000+ new infections YESTERDAY

Include France and the Kingdom and you're bouncing just short of 1 million

That's beside the new year spike

Figures, as always, from World-O-meter

Happy 2022

 

[Dogsauce]

It's not as simple as all Republicans doing this, though. Things aren't quite as simply split on those lines. Republicans are generally older and a lot of them are pretty sane and pro-vaccine.

A significant minority, almost a third, have said they’re never getting a shot.

1 In 5 Adults Still Reject Covid Vaccines, Poll Finds — Here Are The Biggest Groups Still Holding Out

Republicans, Americans living in rural areas and white evangelical Christians are among the groups most likely to reject the Covid-19 vaccine, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.

www.forbes.com

There’s also resistance to boosters on top of this number.

Those numbers will reduce as people watch friends and relatives die, although there’s a significant kickback at hospitals with many blaming deaths on the medical protocols used to treat the symptoms rather than the disease itself, leading to this kind of bollocks:

 

[8ball]

A significant majority, almost a third…

Bit of tea came out of my nose there.

 

[Dogsauce]

Bit of tea came out of my nose there.

Oops

(I know what I meant to write, edited!)

 

[StoneRoad]

Such a shame ... [not] ...

Marjorie Taylor Greene: Twitter bans congresswoman over Covid misinformation

The congresswoman was suspended after tweeting falsely about high levels of vaccine related deaths.

www.bbc.co.uk

taken twatter long enough

 

[existentialist]

Such a shame ... [not] ...

Marjorie Taylor Greene: Twitter bans congresswoman over Covid misinformation

The congresswoman was suspended after tweeting falsely about high levels of vaccine related deaths.

www.bbc.co.uk

taken twatter long enough

"Rep Greene said the ban proved that the company is 'an enemy to America'."

This gun-totin' militarised nation seems to appear remarkably fragile in certain quarters, in the face of free speech, masks, vaccines, etc.

 

[Dogsauce]

"Rep Greene said the ban proved that the company is 'an enemy to America'."

This gun-totin' militarised nation seems to appear remarkably fragile in certain quarters, in the face of free speech, masks, vaccines, etc.

Tbh I’m not particularly sorry if the bunch of absolute fucking hateful idiots who take her advice as gospel on Twitter find themselves tubed up in the ICU, it’s just all the others caught up by them spreading it around and effects on their families etc.

 

[Yossarian]

The US reported 1,083,948 new cases Monday, more than doubling the previous world record, set the previous week - since that number includes cases not reported over the weekend, it's hopefully a record that will never be surpassed.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Bloody hell 572,000+ new infections YESTERDAY

Over a million new cases reported yesterday, and that doesn't include tests taken at home.

More than 1 million people in the US were diagnosed with Covid-19 on Monday, setting a new global daily record. A total of 1.06 million people across the US tested positive with the virus, a figure driven largely by the Omicron variant, data from Johns Hopkins University reveals. Monday’s number is almost double the previous record of about 590,000 set just four days ago in the US, which itself was a doubling from the prior week.

Many Americans are relying on tests they take at home, with results that aren’t reported to official government authorities leading some to suggest the new record is a significant under-estimate. However delays in reporting over the holidays may have also played a role in the rising rates.

Italy reports record 170,844 cases and 259 deaths; fourth jab gives five-fold antibody boost, study says – as it happened

There were 12,912 people in hospital in Italy; Israel PM says study shows safety of fourth dose and increase in antibodies a week after jab

www.theguardian.com

 

[elbows]

In some of the previous waves, America, its experts and its media have tended to have a very different attitude towards the reporting of hospitalised children. They use it as part of the big narrative and to influence behaviours and attitudes, in a manner very very different to the likes of the UK where it nearly always remains off the radar.

Has anybody noticed that happening this time too? I havent had a chance to look yet, but I will at some point.

 

[zahir]

In some of the previous waves, America, its experts and its media have tended to have a very different attitude towards the reporting of hospitalised children. They use it as part of the big narrative and to influence behaviours and attitudes, in a manner very very different to the likes of the UK where it nearly always remains off the radar.

Has anybody noticed that happening this time too? I havent had a chance to look yet, but I will at some point.

See this thread:

 

[zahir]

UK figures for comparison:

 

[8ball]

Oops

(I know what I meant to write, edited!)

Yeah, and granted, a significant minority of older Republicans are anti-vaxx, but that leaves the rest.
Just thought there needed a little balance adding because I've watched vids with Republicans and the like being very pro-vaccine and depairing at many of their compatriots.

Your pic from that hospital really makes me fucking despair.

 

[elbows]

Thanks for the data above.

And yes, here we are again. As far as I know the Guardian doesnt tend to consider writing equivalent articles for UK covid child data & quotes from relevant people in the healthcare system, its like a strangely different world.

Covid hospitalizations among US children soar as schools under pressure

Average of 672 children being hospitalized every day in the US as of 2 January, fueled by the Omicron variant and the holidays

www.theguardian.com

 

[zahir]

elbows - here are today's figures for England. The high rates of hospitalisation of 0-5s look consistent across different countries.

 

[8ball]

elbows - here are today's figures for England. The high rates of hospitalisation of 0-5s look consistent across different countries.

That's quite a gradient on the right of that curve there...

 

[zahir]

In some of the previous waves, America, its experts and its media have tended to have a very different attitude towards the reporting of hospitalised children. They use it as part of the big narrative and to influence behaviours and attitudes, in a manner very very different to the likes of the UK where it nearly always remains off the radar.

Has anybody noticed that happening this time too? I havent had a chance to look yet, but I will at some point.

A good example here.

 

[Badgers]

Texas teacher 'locked Covid-positive son in car boot'

A witness reportedly called police after hearing someone in the trunk of the Texas woman's vehicle.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[bimble]

this is the actual twitter account of the Republican Party in Texas. That country is so fucked.

 

[Carvaged]

I have family in NYC. They caught covid (despite boosters) over the Holidays. Has been just like a mild cold for them (they're early '40s). Strangely though my brother developed it quickly after (likely) exposure from a restaurant during the early part of the Omicron outbreak over there. Aside from that they both WFH, wear masks everywhere and rarely go out except to walk doggo. They slept in separate bedrooms and had 2 HEPA filter airpurifiers blowing all day in their apartment to reduce the risk of wife catching it, and it seemed she was safe. However she finally developed symptoms and went positive on LFTs about 8-9 days after my brother had gone clear on LFTs. So either a very long gestation period for the virus in her, or he was still infectious? They're both a bit confused by that, as neither had gone anywhere (self-isolation) to catch it from anyone else after my brother first became infected.

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

I have family in NYC. They caught covid (despite boosters) over the Holidays. Has been just like a mild cold for them (they're early '40s). Strangely though my brother developed it quickly after (likely) exposure from a restaurant during the early part of the Omicron outbreak over there. Aside from that they both WFH, wear masks everywhere and rarely go out except to walk doggo. They slept in separate bedrooms and had 2 HEPA filter airpurifiers blowing all day in their apartment to reduce the risk of wife catching it, and it seemed she was safe. However she finally developed symptoms and went positive on LFTs about 8-9 days after my brother had gone clear on LFTs. So either a very long gestation period for the virus in her, or he was still infectious? They're both a bit confused by that, as neither had gone anywhere (self-isolation) to catch it from anyone else after my brother first became infected.

The symptoms/infection appearing/developping timeline is a bell curve, the original 14 days isolation covered the top of the bell curve meaning it would catch "most" people having been infected, the average is 5.6 days (original and best Wuhan strain).

But then you get the outliers who only show positivity/develop enough of an infection to be detected anywhere up to (IIRC) 30 days later (only about 1 in 100 person).

I think one of the NZ outbreak was from someone who developped symptoms a couple of weeks after their 14 days quarantine after arriving in the country.

Omicron average symptom showing at the moment seem to be taking an average of 3 days to appear so faster than the original strain but there will still be outliers.

Also: after testing negative on LFT you will probably still be emitting some, just not enough for the test to catch them. So your sister in law probably just slowly caught more and more virions and they slowly reproduced inside her until she showed symptoms later than expected.

 

[Yossarian]

The US reported 1,083,948 new cases Monday, more than doubling the previous world record, set the previous week - since that number includes cases not reported over the weekend, it's hopefully a record that will never be surpassed.

I definitely called that one wrong - and as elsewhere, the true number of new infections is probably much higher.

 

[zahir]

 

[extra dry]

13 minute interview with ICU nurses and doctors in the states, looks like the wave really got going after halloween,

 

[elbows]

Something a bit different.

US man who faked death found alive in Glasgow

Nicholas Rossi, using the alias Arthur Knight, was arrested in hospital while being treated for Covid.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[petee]

the kids are alright, pt 3 i think.
some are pretty smart too.

Why a suburban teen went to Philly to get his COVID-19 vaccine

Now, he’s on a mission to help young people like him get access to the shot.

whyy.org

 

[elbows]

Dear oh dear.

On Monday, Ingraham introduced a section of her show called Positively Boosted, in which she gleefully recounts which vaccinated public figures have tested positive.

Clapping and smiling, she said: “Triple-vaxxed joint chiefs chairman Mark Milley, our favorite Mark Milley, tested positive for Covid yesterday.

Fox News host Laura Ingraham’s glee at general’s Covid diagnosis sparks outrage

Rightwing presenter called a ‘merchant of death’ after mockingly applauding as she revealed Gen Mark Milley’s positive test

www.theguardian.com

 

[NoXion]

The point behind the vaccinations is and has always been to prevent serious illness and hospitalisation. In that regard they are very successful. You have to have some serious co-morbidities in order to die from a breakthrough case.

Meanwhile, otherwise healthy unvaccinated people are largely the ones clogging up the ICUs in the US.