COVID-19 in America

[petee]

spotted on the LIRR this evening.

good to see pushback in a popular milieu.

 

[spring-peeper]

A baffled world is watching as the US is overrun by COVID-19 infections and deaths — with no end in sight

"The USA is a first-world country but it is acting like a third-world country," U Aung Thu Nyein, a political analyst in Myanmar said.

www.businessinsider.com

Across 13 countries, including Canada, Australia, and Spain, the US has been viewed in the most negative light over the past year, compared to years past. They are especially critical of the US's handling of the pandemic according to Pew.

"Across the 13 nations surveyed, a median of just 15% say the US has done a good job of dealing with the outbreak," the Pew report said.
...

"The USA is a first-world country but it is acting like a third-world country," U Aung Thu Nyein, a political analyst in Myanmar, told The Times.

Additionally, while other residents have said that their own nations have done well to handle the outbreak, only in the US and the United Kingdom did respondents give their respective countries poor marks.

In July, The Washington Post reported that as Americans lost faith in their own country's handling of the pandemic, as well as social unrest, the world also began to "question the United States' appetite or capacity for a collaborative leadership role at a time when the health and economic crises call out for committed global cooperation."

 

[elbows]

The head of the US public health body the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has been overheard complaining about a new member of President Trump's coronavirus task force. According to a report from NBC News, Dr Robert Redfield was heard saying that Dr Scott Atlas was giving Trump false and misleading data on the virus - including on whether masks work, and on herd immunity.

On a phone call, made in public on a flight from Atlanta to Washington DC, Redfield was heard saying: "Everything he says is false." He later confirmed he was talking about Atlas, who joined the White House task force in August. Atlas's appointment has been criticised, because he doesn't have a background in infectious diseases or public health.

From 17:50 on BBC live updates page https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-54315280

 

[elbows]

BBC live page again, 14:22 entry:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-54352135

Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) in the US are reporting lower coronavirus infection rates because students are better at wearing masks and observing social distancing, a study has found.

According to a report in Inside Higher Ed, students at HBCUs are also more aware of the disproportionate toll the pandemic has taken on people of colour in the US.

HBCUs have also taken a stricter approach to Covid measure, the report adds. One HBCU in North Carolina held classes on Labour Day weekend, to discourage students from going to gatherings.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

 

[Mr.Bishie]

 

[Supine]

Finally some positive Trump news

 

[LDC]

I know it's obvious but bloody hell, potentially HUGE implications... even if he doesn't get that ill.

 

[BassJunkie]

If he did get very ill, or indeed die, given the fact he's been the cheerleader for "It's not dangerous" that may well save many lives among his acolytes if they begin to take it seriously.

In a sense he'd be like Jesus, except he'd have died for his own sins.

 

[existentialist]

I know it's obvious but bloody hell, potentially HUGE implications... even if he doesn't get that ill.

One can only hope.

 

[LDC]

One can only hope.

I'm not sure though. If it interferes with the election rallies and debates etc. maybe they'd be a good case that the election couldn't go ahead 'fairly' and it might be delayed. Or if he loses he'll have another argument that he was disadvantaged. Fuck knows, every time I put the news on it gets more and more like some terrible apocalypse TV show, so who knows what might come of this latest development in the plot...

 

[frogwoman]

Come on SARS-COV-2, we're all counting on you.

 

[frogwoman]

He's going to be fine though isn't he

 

[LDC]

He's going to be fine though isn't he

He's in a few higher risk categories though.... News earlier was reporting that he has a 20% chance of being hospitalized.

 

[Steel Icarus]

He's going to be fine and use it to win. What a bad dream this year is.

 

[frogwoman]

If he doesn't get ill it's another argument for 'it's just flu'. And if he dies that's another argument for deranged QANON fans to say it's actually a big conspiracy.

 

[LDC]

I wish he could hear all the news reports saying he's classed as obese. Probably that would upset him more than anything else.

 

[ska invita]

tens of millions lose their jobs in the US - markets reach record boom!
trump has to quarantine for two weeks - markets fall
what a system

 

[LDC]

If he doesn't get ill it's another argument for 'it's just flu'. And if he dies that's another argument for deranged QANON fans to say it's actually a big conspiracy.

Oh no, yeah the conspiracy stuff will be out of control....

Also imagine Biden might be sweating a little waiting for his test result too. Maybe if he gets it too they can have a televised virus off and the one that survives gets to be president. Some shit 2020 coronavirus version of the Thunderdome.

 

[maomao]

If he doesn't get ill it's another argument for 'it's just flu'. And if he dies that's another argument for deranged QANON fans to say it's actually a big conspiracy.

What we need is 2 weeks on a ventilator and then to contest the election while clearly incapacitated.

I wish he could hear all the news reports saying he's classed as obese. Probably that would upset him more than anything else.

He's only just obese and he's above average height which makes it slightly less accurate.

 

[planetgeli]

I'm not sure though. If it interferes with the election rallies and debates etc. maybe they'd be a good case that the election couldn't go ahead 'fairly' and it might be delayed.

It will not be delayed. It has to be delayed by executive order and there's all sorts of reasons that will never happen.

 

[planetgeli]

Come on SARS-COV-2, we're all counting on you.

It's a shit virus, never does anything right. We've seen that with Johnson.

 

[frogwoman]

Yeah I know that hes got major health problems despite being 'the healthiest president America has ever seen'

 

[LDC]

It will not be delayed. It has to be delayed by executive order and there's all sorts of reasons that will never happen.

Yeah, it seems unlikely, but if 2020 has taught us anything...

 

[Artaxerxes]

If he did get very ill, or indeed die, given the fact he's been the cheerleader for "It's not dangerous" that may well save many lives among his acolytes if they begin to take it seriously.

In a sense he'd be like Jesus, except he'd have died for his own sins.

No, he will have been killed by a FAKE DISEASE in a GOVERNMENT PLOT TO SUBVERT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

 

[planetgeli]

Apropos of nothing, according to our systematic review and meta-analysis of the age-stratified IFR of COVID-19, a 74-year-old person who catches the disease has a 1 in 25 risk of death

24-1 shot then. Though some Chinese studies put it more around 12-1.

Developing pneumonia seems to be the key.

 

[Chilli.s]

Given the results that he lost while barely conscious in an isolation ward...

 

[maomao]

There's also a massively increased chance of stroke after recovery so there's some hope right up to election day.

Apropos of nothing, according to our systematic review and meta-analysis of the age-stratified IFR of COVID-19, a 74-year-old person who catches the disease has a 1 in 25 risk of death

24-1 shot then. Though some Chinese studies put it more around 12-1.

Developing pneumonia seems to be the key.

Does 'catching the disease' include asymptomatic cases?

 

[frogwoman]

Does he have any symptoms?

 

[LDC]

Does he have any symptoms?

He won't have symptoms and he'll be fighting fit running the country right up until the second he dies I expect...