COVID-19 in America

[Yuwipi Woman]

One of my step-relatives posted a link to this article on his facebook page. It’s getting a lot of support from his other contacts.

It’s nasty ugly shit dressed up as a pantomime version of something intelligent thoughtful. I see a lot of people defriending contacts because they post shit like this. While it makes me feel sad angry and dirty to read it, I think it’s important to see what’s inside their heads. This article covers a lot of ground in short order and gives me a glimpse of what they really feel.

Right at the start of this pandemic I was saying that America would be a shit show, that the hidden schism would open and the supperating wound at the heart of American society would crack open. The BLM movement has precipitated it, but it was happening anyway. This was always going to play out along these particular lines.

I can’t see how this can end well. I can’t imagine any good outcome to this. I see disaster on all sides. Win lose or delay/cancel the election, there will be deeper and more violent dissent. The long-standing gun culture sets dangerous, deadly parameters. The virus will continue to expose binary thinking and arseholery. As the machine feels itself collapsing it will work furiously and with increasing self-destruction to salvage something.

Hopefully out of the chaos something hopeful and clean can emerge, but I highly doubt it will be soon.

Some of my family are talking about leaving their home state, leaving America altogether . I wish they would do that now rather than waiting. My friend who works in the WH (not in the current administration) is telling me how likely a delayed election is (increasingly).

I've been packing up and getting rid of things I don't need. I realized a few weeks ago that what I was subconsciously doing was getting ready to move. To where I do not know.

 

[8ball]

I've been packing up and getting rid of things I don't need. I realized a few weeks ago that what I was subconsciously doing was getting ready to move. To where I do not know.

The dolphins have refused to look at any more asylum claims.

 

[petee]

who are facing down this shit on a daily basis.

thanks, this really is the core of it, I've pointed it out here too, not always to effect, which does leave me furiously frustrated i admit.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

I've been packing up and getting rid of things I don't need. I realized a few weeks ago that what I was subconsciously doing was getting ready to move. To where I do not know.

I really feel for you.

My brother lives there with his family. He has a British passport and he’s talking about relocating to London. His wife really wants to do it. But they seem to be dragging their heels, and that worries me.

But at least they do have the opotion of coming here. I have other good friends and family over there who are seriously talking about relocating, to least away from the South, but they currently don’t have a clue about what they can realistically do about moving (where how etc). But even those who live in more northern states, even democratic supporting areas, are taking about their fears for the future and all the what-ifs.

No one can be surprised by Trump’s “suggestion” today that the election be delayed. And I hate to say it, but a cousin (who recently holidayed in Florida and refuses to wear a mask and is now whining because his friends won’t visit him) has been suggesting it as something he really wants for about a month. This idea of a delayed election has been swirling around amongst Trump supporters for some time already.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

Another relative is posting up shit to debunk the virus on a daily basis. They all come from right, far right and alt-right sources. I’ve tried to debate some of the facts and numbers with with him, to no avail. He doesn’t even seem to realise that this hasn’t happened within some kind of American bubble. He doesn’t seem to hear me when I say “Are these same agitators also doing the same work in Italy, Spain, the UK?”

And he’s a rich successful insurance salesman. I know they’re inherently parasitic, but I assumed they generally had some kind of basic statistical literacy. But nope, he disputes all the facts, all the numbers.

 

[8ball]

He doesn’t even seem to realise that this hasn’t happened within some kind of American bubble.

The one that astonished me was the conspiracy theory that the virus had been faked so people would stay indoors and Trump could rescue some children from under Central Park. The whole thing in order to keep a small proportion of New Yorkers in their houses (and keep some tourists away, I guess).

 

[SheilaNaGig]

 

[8ball]

QAnon Idiots Very Concerned About Mole Children Now

Yes. Mole children.

www.wonkette.com

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I really feel for you.

My brother lives there with his family. He has a British passport and he’s talking about relocating to London. His wife really wants to do it. But they seem to be dragging their heels, and that worries me.

But at least they do have the opotion of coming here. I have other good friends and family over there who are seriously talking about relocating, to least away from the South, but they currently don’t have a clue about what they can realistically do about moving (where how etc). But even those who live in more northern states, even democratic supporting areas, are taking about their fears for the future and all the what-ifs.

No one can be surprised by Trump’s “suggestion” today that the election be delayed. And I hate to say it, but a cousin (who recently holidayed in Florida and refuses to wear a mask and is now whining because his friends won’t visit him) has been suggesting it as something he really wants for ant ,sat a month. This idea of a delayed election has been swirling around amongst Trump supporters for some time already.

I don't blame your brother and his wife for thinking of leaving. Things will get nasty no matter who wins the next election (assuming there is one.) I'm with you, they should make that decision sooner rather than later.

I have the option of going back home. Its so far out in the middle of nowhere that the feds wouldn't notice its there and the locals aren't exactly friendly when law enforcement starts asking questions.

 

[petee]

major league trumper dies of it

Herman Cain, former presidential candidate and Trump surrogate, dies after battling COVID-19 | abc7ny.com

Former%20Republican%20presidential%20candidate%20Herman%20Cain%20has%20died%20after%20battling%20coronavirus%20for%20nearly%20a%20month%2C%20his%20official%20website%20posted%20Thursday%20morning%20and%20a%20source%20close%20to%20the%20White%20House%20confirmed%20to%20ABC%20News.

www.google.com

 

[two sheds]

I think you'll find he was actually killed by a Deep State operative.

 

[petee]

I think you'll find he was actually killed by a Deep State operative.

who threw coronavirus at cain

 

[petee]

minor league trumper too

Turning Point USA co-founder dies of coronavirus-related complications

Bill Montgomery started the pro-Trump student group along with Charlie Kirk, its current leader.

www.politico.com

 

[gentlegreen]

 

[cupid_stunt]

This ^^^ is why we need the reaction.

 

[elbows]

Theres nothing astonishing about QAnon theories these days, they started off from a position that had no basis in reality and its all downhill from there.

These awful shits always find a new ridiculous way to spin events:

"I can't help but think that if I hadn't been wearing a mask so much in the last 10 days or so — I really wonder if I would've gotten it," Gohmert said. "But I know moving the mask around, getting it just right, I'm bound to put some virus on the mask that I sucked in. That's most likely what happened."

Trump-loving Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert blames wearing a face mask for his positive COVID-19 test

Gohmert was filmed not wearing a mask near Attorney General Barr on Capitol Hill. One day later, he tested positive

www.salon.com

 

[SheilaNaGig]

Uh-oh....

 

[SheilaNaGig]

I don't blame your brother and his wife for thinking of leaving. Things will get nasty no matter who wins the next election (assuming there is one.) I'm with you, they should make that decision sooner rather than later.

I have the option of going back home. Its so far out in the middle of nowhere that the feds wouldn't notice its there and the locals aren't exactly friendly when law enforcement starts asking questions.

It’s so strange that these conversations are happening in real life now, not just as some kind of what-if parlour game.

The prepares are probably delighted by the whole thing, feeling all righteous and self congratulatory.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

QAnon Idiots Very Concerned About Mole Children Now

Yes. Mole children.

www.wonkette.com

Wow.

Not come across that one before now.

Although I woman in the shop yesterday was telling me about how the UK government are paying someone, not sure who, to inject Bangladeshi 14-year-olds (very specific) in London with the test vaccine. She was in tears when she was talking about this, she feels genuinely traumatised by the things that she believes.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

I know this is off topic for this particular thread, but it’s all connected isn’t it (if your pardon the expression)

I heard a weird conspiracy theory a couple of weeks ago about a furniture warehouse selling children online.

Wayfair: The false conspiracy about a furniture firm and child trafficking

It's gone global, and involves a US-based furniture company and unfounded allegations of human trafficking.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

It’s so strange that these conversations are happening in real life now, not just as some kind of what-if parlour game.

The prepares are probably delighted by the whole thing, feeling all righteous and self congratulatory.

LOL. I checked in on a few websites last week. They were in their full apoplectic Armageddon glory. Their day has come!

 

[frogwoman]

That republican senator that turned up to work and announced to all his staff that he had got it

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Again, no one is surprised. That's what it looked like at the time:

Kushner's coronavirus team shied away from a national strategy, believing that the virus was hitting Democratic states hardest and that they could blame governors, report says

• Some members of Jared Kushner's coronavirus task force believed the pandemic would affect Democratic areas worse and may have adjusted accordingly, Vanity Fair reported.
• In March and early April, Kushner gathered a team to devise a nationwide coronavirus testing plan.
• A public-health expert in regular contact with the team told the magazine that "the political folks" thought a nationwide response was a bad political move.
• At the time, outbreaks were worst in Democratic-voting states and cities. The source suggested that some close to Kushner thought it was best to hold back and blame governors.
• Kushner's plan was indeed dropped in favor of a mainly state-by-state response. Since then, cases have surged in states on both sides of the political divide.

Kushner's coronavirus team shied away from a national strategy, believing that the virus was hitting Democratic states hardest and that they could blame governors, report says

Some members of Kushner's COVID-19 team thought it was better to leave Democratic-voting areas to fend for themselves, a source told Vanity Fair.

www.businessinsider.com

I would think some criminal law statute would apply there. If nothing else, you'd think it would be an impeachable offense (but not with this Congress.)

 

[petee]

Iowa teachers write and send their own obituaries to governor ahead of fall reopenings

"Iowa teachers are sending mock obituaries to Iowa Gov. Kimberly Reynolds (R) in hopes she will reconsider her school plans for the fall"

 

[phillm]

Had to look him up - looks like Trump has offed one of his own.

Health and death
In 2006, Cain was diagnosed with Stage IV colon cancer and metastases to his liver and given a 30 percent chance of survival. Cain underwent surgery and chemotherapy following the diagnosis, and the cancer was subsequently reported to be in remission.[108]

On June 29, 2020 he was diagnosed with COVID-19 and admitted to an Atlanta-area hospital two days later.[109] After four weeks of hospitalization, Cain died from complications due to COVID-19 at age 74.[110][111][112][113]

Cain opposed mask mandates during the coronavirus pandemic.[114][115][116] He attended a Donald Trump rally in Tulsa nine days before he was diagnosed and was photographed not wearing a face mask in a seated crowd who also were not wearing masks.[117] On the day he was hospitalized, he praised South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem for not requiring masks at an upcoming Trump campaign event, tweeting "Masks will not be mandatory for the event, which will be attended by President Trump. PEOPLE ARE FED UP!"[118] The tweet was deleted the day he died.[115] Cain's staff on July 2 said there was "no way of knowing for sure how or where" he contracted the disease.[109] Dan Calabrese, the editor of Cain's website, said, "I realize people will speculate about the Tulsa rally, but Herman did a lot of traveling [that] week, including to Arizona where cases [were] spiking."[44]

Herman Cain - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Tankus]

Yuwipi Woman....."I would think some criminal law statute would apply there. If nothing else, you'd think it would be an impeachable offense (but not with this Congress.)"

I would have thought, its mass murder , with intent surely ??
They used whats app to communicate to avoid public records .
There's a real creepy clip of Kushner being asked about his secret viral task force a few weeks back , his snigger then silence as a reply was flat out disturbing then...but now with the death toll heading for quarter of a million Americans by the Nov elections, even ,if they manage to plateau the outbreak soon. (Which seems highly unlikely with the forced school openings) and this story out in the open , In retrospect , it now seems pathological.

Harold Shipman would bow in his honor

 

[zahir]

This might give an idea of what to expect from reopening schools.
SARS-CoV-2 Transmission and Infection Among Attendees of an...

 

[zahir]

Looking at those figures I’m wondering how much of the overall effect of lockdown has come from closing schools.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I would have thought, its mass murder , with intent surely ??
They used whats app to communicate to avoid public records .
There's a real creepy clip of Kushner being asked about his secret viral task force a few weeks back , his snigger then silence as a reply was flat out disturbing then...but now with the death toll heading for quarter of a million Americans by the Nov elections, even ,if they manage to plateau the outbreak soon. (Which seems highly unlikely with the forced school openings) and this story out in the open , In retrospect , it now seems pathological.

Harold Shipman would bow in his honor

I'd go so far as suggest the word "genocide." I don't think its an accident that most of the ppe that have been shipped from the strategic stockpile to native tribes has been broken or unusable. The Navaho in particular have been hard hit by Corona and they were shipped defective ppe by a company run by a Trump donor. Another tribe was shipped body bags instead of PPE. Other aid has been slow in coming to native tribes:

He says he thinks about that often. After learning nearly 250,000 breathing masks delivered to the Navajo Nation earlier this month may not be suitable for medical use, another 130,000 masks are considered questionable because the serial number on package is different from the one on the box.


"You can't treat our Navajo Nation this way right now. This is the most dire situation," Arizona Congressman Ruben Gallego (D) Phoenix said. "We need all hands on deck. Not this amateur hour we see happening."

Tuesday, Gallego joined a number of Democrats on the House Oversight Committee in calling for an investigation.

The company who supplied the PPE to the Navajo Nation is owned by Josh Fuentes, a former deputy chief of staff for President Trump. According to the online investigative news journal ProPublica, Fuentes won a $3 million federal contract to supply respirator masks to Navajo Nation hospitals in New Mexico and Arizona 11 days after he created a company to sell personal protective equipment in response to the coronavirus pandemic. "How did this person with no experience in production or delivery of PPE get a government contract," Gallego said before adding, "How did we let this person get a government contract and deliver faulty product to the Navajo Nation?"

Congress to investigate PPE shipments sent to the Navajo Nation

On the Navajo Nation, nearly everyone wears a mask. "I'm thinking to myself what if these masks were outdated, expired or not even functioning," said Arizona State Representative Arlando Teller, (D) Chinle.

www.abc15.com

A couple of other examples of lack of PPE or other resources to fight Covid 19 on native land:

A Native health center asked for COVID-19 medical supplies. It got body bags instead.

"Are we going to keep getting body bags or are we going to get what we actually need?" a Seattle Indian Health Board official asked.

www.nbcnews.com

Indian Country faces higher risks, lack of resources in COVID-19 fight

As the number of COVID19 cases in the Navajo Nation climbs, experts say they're concerned about the high risk of transmission in Indian Country,

abcnews.go.com

COVID-19 Further Strains Care Disparities Among Native Americans

Underfunded IHS, isolation from resources pose major concern for tribes during pandemic

www.medpagetoday.com

 

[phillm]

Gotta love that Dr Fauci.