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COVID-19 in America

Tom Hanks should be in charge of mask compliance measures.

Hanks said: "I don't get it, I simply do not get it, it is literally the least you can do."

"If anybody wants to build up an argument about doing the least they can do, I wouldn't trust them with a driver's licence," he said.

"I mean, when you drive a car, you've got to obey speed limits, you've got to use your turn signals [indicators], you've got to avoid hitting pedestrians. If you can't do those three things, you shouldn't be driving a car.

"If you can't wear a mask and wash your hands and social distance, I've got no respect for you, man. I don't buy your argument."
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www.bbc.co.uk

Coronavirus: Tom Hanks 'has no respect' for people not wearing masks

The actor strongly criticises people who don't wear face coverings amid the coronavirus pandemic.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
frogwoman said:
I know there's a backlog from the weekend but today's US stats are absolutely horrifying. :(
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The Monday figure of 993 and yesterday's 890 were the two highest since 12th June, but sadly expected since the increase in new cases started to take off mid-June, when the 7-day rolling average was around 22k a day, now it's a shocking 54k a day. :(

We are just seeing the lag between higher number of cases, followed by news stories of hospitals struggling, and then the increase in daily deaths.
 
More madness from across the pond.

A Republican lawmaker has urged people in Ohio to stop getting tested for coronavirus, despite the state seeing a surge in infections.

GOP House of Representatives member Nino Vitale asked constituents if they were “tired of living in a dictatorship” in a Facebook post on Tuesday and advised that they “STOP GETTING TESTED!”

“It is giving the government an excuse to claim something is happening that is not happening at the magnitude they say it is happening,” the lawmaker claimed.
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:facepalm:

Yet, the Republican Ohio governor is about to make mask wearing mandatory in seven counties where the coronavirus is spreading rapidly, as the state rose above the 21-day average for both coronavirus infections and deaths after reporting 948 new cases of the disease, 144 infections above the 21 day average of 804, and more than double the 21-day average for deaths, recording 43 fatalities from the disease on Tuesday. That's in a state with a population of under 12 million.

So, why is this idiot Vitale telling people to stop getting tested, and against wearing masks?

In April, Rep Vitale made his personal views on masks clear after citing religious beliefs as his reason to refuse to wear one in line with recommendations.

“This is not the entire world,” Rep Vitale wrote in another lengthy Facebook post, The Hill reported. “This is the greatest nation on earth founded on Judeo-Christian Principles.”

“One of those principles is that we are all created in the image and likeness of God. That image is seen the most by our face. I will not wear a mask,” he continued.
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And, that's it, fucking hell. :facepalm:


www.independent.co.uk

Republican lawmaker demands Americans ‘stop getting tested’ for coronavirus

'It is giving the government an excuse to claim something is happening that is not happening', politician says
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“One of those principles is that we are all created in the image and likeness of God. That image is seen the most by our face. I will not wear a mask,” he continued.
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I've seen a few of these arguments recently from Americans. It makes me wonder how they square this with their love of needlessly mutilating their baby boys shortly after birth.

I suppose if I'm looking for logic I should speak to a computer.
 
We are hearing a lot about mass testing in the US so I guess the death rate will be the real indicator and that general trend is still down. Russia seemingly had a mass testing program which returned a lot of positive tests but their death rate remains fairly low.

Dunno, clutching at straws really.
 
Teaboy said:
We are hearing a lot about mass testing in the US so I guess the death rate will be the real indicator and that general trend is still down. Russia seemingly had a mass testing program which returned a lot of positive tests but their death rate remains fairly low.

Dunno, clutching at straws really.
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It's not, deaths are starting to go up, in some states hospitals are struggling with the number of covid patients being admitted, and rapidly running out of capacity to treat them. :(

cupid_stunt said:
The Monday figure of 993 and yesterday's 890 were the two highest since 12th June, but sadly expected since the increase in new cases started to take off mid-June, when the 7-day rolling average was around 22k a day, now it's a shocking 54k a day. :(

We are just seeing the lag between higher number of cases, followed by news stories of hospitals struggling, and then the increase in daily deaths.
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Teaboy said:
We are hearing a lot about mass testing in the US so I guess the death rate will be the real indicator and that general trend is still down. Russia seemingly had a mass testing program which returned a lot of positive tests but their death rate remains fairly low.

Dunno, clutching at straws really.
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America is at the higher end compared to other counties in terms of testing, but I think it would need to be a very far-flung outlier for that to be the explanation, and it isn't.
 
cupid_stunt said:
It's not, deaths are starting to go up, in some states hospitals are struggling with the number of covid patients being admitted, and rapidly running out of capacity to treat them. :(
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Yeah I was looking at the general trend across the states as a whole, clearly state by state is very different.
 
cupid_stunt said:
New cases are raising in 35 states ATM.
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Yes but the point I was making is that 'seek and you will find'. The more people you test the more cases you'll find, its not necessarily an indicator of a situation getting worse it can be just you're getting a more accurate picture of how things actually are.

Of course, its almost certainly not the case in the states hence the clutching at straws comment but in theory it is possible,
 
Teaboy said:
Yes but the point I was making is that 'seek and you will find'. The more people you test the more cases you'll find, its not necessarily an indicator of a situation getting worse it can be just you're getting a more accurate picture of how things actually are.

Of course, its almost certainly not the case in the states hence the clutching at straws comment but in theory it is possible,
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:D

Everything is possible in theory, but it doesn't appear to be the case, their testing on a per million basis is lower than a number of European countries, and they are going in the opposite direction on important measures, such as new cases, hospital admissions, and now daily deaths too.

Time to let those straws go.
 
This CNN article also destroys Trump claim.

Texas, Arizona and Florida, which have seen recent spikes in the number of confirmed cases, have also seen a dramatic increase in their positivity rates -- with Texas jumping from 6.6% to 15.6% in the last month, Arizona increasing from 12.7% to 26.8% in the same time period, and Florida going from 4.1% to 19.1%.

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott pointed to the positivity rate as a key measure in early May, when the state began to reopen, saying that if the state saw a rate of more than 10% it would serve as a "red flag." Texas surpassed a 10% rate on June 24; Abbott paused the reopening plan the next day.

Another Republican governor, Florida's Ron DeSantis, acknowledged in late June that the state's spike was not a result of testing increases: "Even with the testing increasing or being flat, the number of people testing positive is accelerating faster than that."
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However, the true number of cases in the US is also very likely much higher than the confirmed number. Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told reporters in late June: "Our best estimate right now is for every case reported there were actually 10 other infections."
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edition.cnn.com

Fact check: No, more testing isn't the reason US coronavirus case numbers are getting worse

No matter how high the daily number of new coronavirus cases has gotten, President Donald Trump has responded with the argument he repeated on Thursday: the big number is just more evidence of the country's success with testing.
edition.cnn.com edition.cnn.com
 
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