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Council Tax Benefit Cuts .. non-payment campaign?

The simply evil "bedroom tax" is looking well set to become the "Poll tax" type trigger for significant social unrest - I've seen figures of up to 600,000 people potentially facing eviction as they inevitably fall behind with their rent payments.Many of them families with disabled children/partners. I also understand that another looming change is that social housing/council rents for people on benefits will soon no longer be paid directly to the housing association , but paid to tenants to pay. The inevitable result of this will be that lots of tenants with substance abuse and mental health problems will quickly fail to also keep up with their rent payments - in addition to those facing the "Bedroom tax" burden. Hence an even bigger grouping for longer term potential eviction for rent areas emerges.

Unfortunately the likely future social housing evictions nightmare is not necessarily only a potential growth point for Left/progressive activity. I know from conversations with people connected to BNP activists in Stockport for instance that they are absolutely licking their lips at the prospect of long established White families who have lived on big, almost entirely White Council/social housing estates (where the BNP often have deep roots) all their lives in the same house, facing future eviction because of the new Bedroom Tax burden (perhaps because the children have now left home, leaving the parents with "empty" bedrooms). Imagine if the local Housing Association or Council not only evicts the family but also tries to place a large Black/Asian family in that house. These areas could well explode in that situation - and in an entirely reactionery direction. In fact the mere prospect of this is a rallying point for the fascists, and is apparently raising their moral in what has been a disastrously demoralising period for BNP activists since the BNP local electoral surge collapsed .
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Imagine if the local Housing Association or Council not only evicts the family but also tries to place a large Black/Asian family in that house. These areas could well explode in that situation - and in an entirely reactionery direction.

this will happen, as the benefit cap, which also begins in April will mean lots of large families being moved out of london and dumped on other local authorities, many of these families will be non white
 
IIRC you have children. What will happen to them if you get locked up? You need to have someone suitable on standby, because this will be pursued to the bitter end. The government cannot afford to lose this one.

The couldn't afford to lose the Poll Tax either. :)
 
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Apparently completely unreported, anywhere in the regular media. Does anyone know differently?

It seems there was a media blackout on this: the media over the years has been loathe to cover grassroots protests on 'national' issues as opposed to local ones, such as pool closures, etc which can get significant coverage. This (the Bootle protest) is an event which i think is significant, for what i can see this wasn't the usual suspects and the liberal middle class were completely absent, it appeared to have a demographic similar to the 'One Euro Job' Monday protests in Germany against Hartz 4*: unemployed, people with disabilities, young mums, etc. This was on a weekday as well, imagine how much bigger it would have been on a Saturday.


*though they of course, lost...
 
Danny Dowling did a talk at SWAN last year where he talks about council tax banding and how much could be raised by extending beyond H.

I'll look for this later ( I may have got this wrong).


Not SWAN, its been disbanded, more likely Equality Trust,
 
SWAN conference last year with Danny Dorling talking about inequality:



SWAN still exist. Why do you think they don't?
 
What powers do councils have not to summons people for council tax arreas? Is there any discretion or would they be in breach of their statutory duty if they failed to haul people before the courts? My local council has explicitly said that "everyone of working age should make a contribution" - a minimum of 20% of council tax - even people with fuck all. Late last year they summonsed 3000 people at a stroke.
 
the way I heard it was that the mass non payment was also a huge factor- you can't put half the population in jail can you?
It wasn't just that.

The first problem with the mass non-payments was that they had to be processed through the courts, and it quickly became evident that the courts simply didn't have the time to process each application individually. So they went for a kind of bulk process in which batches of people were hauled up en masse.

Then there were challenges to the legality of that, which held things up a bit, and also that councils were having huge financial problems with the sheer cost of processing the non-payments. On top of which, there were all kinds of shenanigans where people were aiming to mess the system around and inconvenience it as much as possible. Right up until the day I moved away from London, I was paying my council tax monthly in cash, on the basis that it was the most inconvenient and expensive way for them to collect it. And it certainly seemed to be - the system was incredibly error prone, and at one point I was getting threatening letters and summonses pretty much every month because they'd fucked up processing them. So, with those, I used to wait until a few days before the court date, so as to ensure they'd had to go through the process of initiating a court hearing before phoning them up and saying "I have paid, you know - I have the stamped payslip here". The only reason I didn't let them take me to court every time was because I had a job to go to.

So yes, I think campaigns of mass inconvenience, as well as or instead of mass non-payment, would be good. People paying their council tax in pound coins, all turning up at the office at the same time, being passively obstructive with the processing, etc., etc.

ETA: oh bugger, I just responded to a nearly-year-old post. Bah.
 
It wasn't just that.

The first problem with the mass non-payments was that they had to be processed through the courts, and it quickly became evident that the courts simply didn't have the time to process each application individually. So they went for a kind of bulk process in which batches of people were hauled up en masse.

Then there were challenges to the legality of that, which held things up a bit, and also that councils were having huge financial problems with the sheer cost of processing the non-payments. On top of which, there were all kinds of shenanigans where people were aiming to mess the system around and inconvenience it as much as possible. Right up until the day I moved away from London, I was paying my council tax monthly in cash, on the basis that it was the most inconvenient and expensive way for them to collect it. And it certainly seemed to be - the system was incredibly error prone, and at one point I was getting threatening letters and summonses pretty much every month because they'd fucked up processing them. So, with those, I used to wait until a few days before the court date, so as to ensure they'd had to go through the process of initiating a court hearing before phoning them up and saying "I have paid, you know - I have the stamped payslip here". The only reason I didn't let them take me to court every time was because I had a job to go to.

So yes, I think campaigns of mass inconvenience, as well as or instead of mass non-payment, would be good. People paying their council tax in pound coins, all turning up at the office at the same time, being passively obstructive with the processing, etc., etc.

ETA: oh bugger, I just responded to a nearly-year-old post. Bah.

Still a live issue though, Birmingham City Council have just announced that they'll be charging unemployed people 20% from next year, not the 8.5% they've been charged this year, and an increasingly harsh sanction regime means more and more people will have no option except non-payment.
 
Still a live issue though, Birmingham City Council have just announced that they'll be charging unemployed people 20% from next year, not the 8.5% they've been charged this year, and an increasingly harsh sanction regime means more and more people will have no option except non-payment.
Bloody unbelievable. And I simply cannot believe that this is anything other than a deliberate policy to screw poor and unemployed people into the ground. It's obscene.
 
Still a live issue though, Birmingham City Council have just announced that they'll be charging unemployed people 20% from next year, not the 8.5% they've been charged this year, and an increasingly harsh sanction regime means more and more people will have no option except non-payment.
And crime will increase, the cost of emergency housing/ealing with homelessness, and so council tax will be seen to have to increase, including from the poor/unemployed...

Somewhere, somehow, this merry go round of madness has to stop.
 
Demonstrators took over the council chamber in Brent last night to fight cuts to council tax support regime that saw 3000 residents issued with court summonses on one day before xmas:
http://wembleymatters.blogspot.co.uk/

You'd think local authorities would know better, and have learned the lesson that apart from anything else, when they issue summonses en bloc, they invariably have at least a 10% "fail" rate, where they piss off householders who've actually paid their CT, or who don't need to pay CT at all.
IIRC Brent was almost as bad as Lambeth and Southwark back in Poll Tax days, for issuing summonses to people who didn't warrant them. Cost them a fair few bob, too.
 
It doesn't make any sense - next thing it will be paying private bailiffs to take things worth fuck all from people who have fuck all
 
Don't they already do that?

And can't some things be protected as essentials - you could argue that a laptop is needed to find work etc.
 
Don't they already do that?

And can't some things be protected as essentials - you could argue that a laptop is needed to find work etc.
Trouble is, you've got to argue that when some big fuckoff mouth breathing bruiser is yanking it out of the wall.

I do sometimes wonder why we don't here more about really serious violent assaults on bailiffs - even a wildly swung dining chair's got to do some harm, and someone with martial arts skills has got to have had the officious man mountain treatment by now and dished out a few instant equalisers...
 
Trouble is, you've got to argue that when some big fuckoff mouth breathing bruiser is yanking it out of the wall.

I do sometimes wonder why we don't here more about really serious violent assaults on bailiffs - even a wildly swung dining chair's got to do some harm, and someone with martial arts skills has got to have had the officious man mountain treatment by now and dished out a few instant equalisers...
Just hide the stuff under the floorboards or 'lend' them to your neighbour!
 
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