Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[Sunray]

I was very encouraged by this,

One Pfizer/BioNTech jab gives '90% immunity' from Covid after 21 days

New analysis runs counter to earlier study which suggested one dose may not give adequate protection

www.theguardian.com

Make me chuckle a bit, it shows you need to educate people to not go crazy the instant they get a vaccine. It appears the Pfizer vaccine has 0% efficacy for 2 weeks and slowly rises to 90% after 21 days.
The UK governments all on black appears to have landed on black. We can hope this run of luck extends to all the vaccines. Might be able to safely unwind a little from the COVID-19 pandemic before summers end.

 

[Dystopiary]

Work and pensions secretary, Thérèse Coffey, has said she is opposed to making one-off £500 or £1,000 universal credit payments in April in lieu of retaining the £20-a-week Covid top-up, warning that it could disincentivise claimants from taking a job.

One-off UK Covid benefit may stop people working, says minister

[Tory MP Nigel] Mills suggested that if a £1,000 payment was on offer in April, universal credit claimants would not be “rushing out to take a job or increase their hours”. Coffey agreed.



Was gonna start a new thread in UK politics, but thought this might be a more appropriate place, Hope that's ok.

 

[zora]

Hold the front page, guys, there is this novel respiratory virus and coughing patients might put healthcare staff at risk of contracting it without proper PPE...

Covid coughing study suggests NHS staff at far greater risk than thought

Health service urged to rethink safety for frontline staff and provide better PPE and ventilation

www.theguardian.com

 

[William of Walworth]

Hold the front page, guys, there is this novel respiratory virus and coughing patients might put healthcare staff at risk from contracting it without proper PPE...

Covid coughing study suggests NHS staff at far greater risk than thought

Health service urged to rethink safety for frontline staff and provide better PPE and ventilation

www.theguardian.com

There might just be some new details there in that study though -- Linda Geddes has been quite good on some science stories.

" ... than previously thought" in the first paragraph suggests no-one thinks 'coughing is bad!' is any kind of brand new thing.

Maybe the word Exclusive! suggesterd otherwise maybe, but still ....

 

[zora]

There might just be some new details there in that study though -- Linda Geddes has been quite good on some science stories.

" ... than previously thought" in the first paragraph suggests no-one thinks 'coughing is bad!' is any kind of brand new thing.

Maybe the word Exclusive! suggesterd otherwise maybe, but still ....

Yes, the study as such is not unwelcome, nor is the reporting on it. My facepalm is for the fact that it's now a year into the pandemic, and PPE for health care workers has not been upgraded after the downgrading that happened last year due to the worldwide shortages.
I think there was some movement towards it at the end of last year, but from what I understand it's not consistently made available to staff even now.
This should have happened, imo, immediately in June or whenever production capacity would have allowed.

 

[existentialist]

Work and pensions secretary, Thérèse Coffey, has said she is opposed to making one-off £500 or £1,000 universal credit payments in April in lieu of retaining the £20-a-week Covid top-up, warning that it could disincentivise claimants from taking a job.

One-off UK Covid benefit may stop people working, says minister

[Tory MP Nigel] Mills suggested that if a £1,000 payment was on offer in April, universal credit claimants would not be “rushing out to take a job or increase their hours”. Coffey agreed.



Was gonna start a new thread in UK politics, but thought this might be a more appropriate place, Hope that's ok.

After Dunked In Shit, and the execrable McVey, Therese Coffey was very much in the shadow of two of the greats of Tory callous heartlessness. That she has been able to transcend that and stand in her own right as yet another mouth-breathing, dogma-following, paragon of casually unconcerned brutality surely marks her out for greatness in the new dim AND evil tory party.

 

[elbows]

This shit has started again, and again Sunaks name is evoked by the anti-lockdown press.

If only a fraction of whats been reported about his pandemic attitude is actually true, I would still hold him culpable for much of what happened with the failed response to the second wave.

Rishi Sunak concerned scientists are 'moving goalposts' on Covid lockdown

Chancellor believes justification for restrictions has changed, say allies, as pressure grows to let Britain reopen

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[elbows]

Maybe he wants a new mutation named after him. The Sunak strain of the virus.

 

[Supine]

I am liking this symptomatic testing lark. Heading home feels better with a negative result (i know about the accuracy stuff).

Less than five minutes in and out. Result tested and messaged in 18 mins.

 

[two sheds]

I was a tad reassured to have the infrared temperature test before going into vaccination. Presume it's not hugely accurate but at least checks for fever and gives instantaneous result.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Maybe he wants a new mutation named after him. The Sunak strain of the virus.

Sunak is merely one minor strain of an already well known viral species.

 

[prunus]

This shit has started again, and again Sunaks name is evoked by the anti-lockdown press.

If only a fraction of whats been reported about his pandemic attitude is actually true, I would still hold him culpable for much of what happened with the failed response to the second wave.

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Rishi Sunak concerned scientists are 'moving goalposts' on Covid lockdown

Chancellor believes justification for restrictions has changed, say allies, as pressure grows to let Britain reopen

www.telegraph.co.uk

The “fat lady sings” comment - that this “needs to be the last time we do this ... we can’t lock down again” is just moronic. Whether we lock down again or not isn’t some kind of whim or fancy, it will driven by whatever the reality is, whether you like it or not. Fuckwit.

 

[TopCat]

The “fat lady sings” comment - that this “needs to be the last time we do this ... we can’t lock down again” is just moronic. Whether we lock down again or not isn’t some kind of whim or fancy, it will driven by whatever the reality is, whether you like it or not. Fuckwit.

It seems he is saying enough is enough and that now (and from now on) protecting wealth should be the priority.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

The “fat lady sings” comment - that this “needs to be the last time we do this ... we can’t lock down again” is just moronic. Whether we lock down again or not isn’t some kind of whim or fancy, it will driven by whatever the reality is, whether you like it or not. Fuckwit.

This is the maddest thing about the Tory's handling of the whole thing IMO. Their downright refusal to learn anything.

 

[Chairman Meow]

As a contrast to the 'fat lady sings' comment, Brett Sutton who is the Victoria's Chief Medical Officer, stated yesterday that he wouldn't hesitate to go back into lockdown should it be required (after a security guard in one of the Australian Open hotels tested positive). In fact he said he would lockdown the state ten times if he had to. When they put Vic into lockdown before, they peaked at 700 cases a day and they got it down to zero. Different approach, different results.

'We’ll do it again. We will do it again. If we have to do it 10 times over, we can do it. We’ve got the tools. Really importantly, we’ve learned the tough lessons and we’ve provided those tough lessons to the rest of Australia. We’ve learned from our counterparts.

Every time there’s a challenge that one of our interstate counterparts faces, we learn from it. And vice versa. And I think Australia’s in a good position. No one wants to have gone through the tragic circumstances that Victoria has, but you cannot have that occur and not embed those lessons to make sure that you’re in the very best position going forward.'



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[kalidarkone]

Hold the front page, guys, there is this novel respiratory virus and coughing patients might put healthcare staff at risk of contracting it without proper PPE...

Covid coughing study suggests NHS staff at far greater risk than thought

Health service urged to rethink safety for frontline staff and provide better PPE and ventilation

www.theguardian.com

No shit sherlock Not aimed at you zora xxx

Also the same goes for the patients being put at risk by the staff.

 

[two sheds]

No shit sherlock Not aimed at you zora xxx

Also the same goes for the patients being put at risk by the government and managers not providing proper PPE for the staff.

cfu (which is what I'm sure you meant)

 

[kalidarkone]

cfu (which is what I'm sure you meant)

I meant what I said.

 

[two sheds]

ah ok apols

 

[Pickman's model]

ah ok apols

that shows a nice spirit

 

[two sheds]

Reluctant to ask further particularly after Pickman's nice comment, but can you say why kalidarkone ? (Also ok if you don't want to).

I'm a great believer in W. Edwards Deming, and if it's widespread poor practice (for example) I'd say that's a management problem too for not spotting/correcting it.

 

[kalidarkone]

Reluctant to ask further particularly after Pickman's nice comment, but can you say why kalidarkone ? (Also ok if you don't want to).

I'm a great believer in W. Edwards Deming, and if it's widespread poor practice (for example) I'd say that's a management problem too for not spotting/correcting it.

Staff= All staff. That includes management, trust CEO, domestics, housekeepers, hca's nurses, porters etc.

I agree with your view, however I wasn't fond of you telling me what I meant and changing it. Instead you could of expanded without interfering with my post.

 

[two sheds]

Yep that's fair, apols again.

 

[kalidarkone]

Yep that's fair, apols again.

Thanks x

 

[cupid_stunt]

Today's reported figures...

First dose vaccination, just under 10.5m.

New cases - 20,634

New deaths - 915, which is down 324 on last Thursday's 1,239. That brings the 7-day average down to 1,018 a day, a drop of 16.6% in the last week.

 

[elbows]

This shit has started again, and again Sunaks name is evoked by the anti-lockdown press.

If only a fraction of whats been reported about his pandemic attitude is actually true, I would still hold him culpable for much of what happened with the failed response to the second wave.

Rishi Sunak concerned scientists are 'moving goalposts' on Covid lockdown

Chancellor believes justification for restrictions has changed, say allies, as pressure grows to let Britain reopen

www.telegraph.co.uk

Some follow-up to this, including comments from a covid recovery group tory wanker. I'd say more if I were not trying to take a break (a break for me means posting much less about the pandemic rather than nothing at all, and my batteries already feel somewhat recharged, but will aim to post nothing at all over the weekend at least).

Covid: Don't ease lockdown restrictions too soon - Starmer

The Labour leader urges the PM not to repeat "the mistakes of last time," amid Tory calls for easing.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[The39thStep]

Don't know if this has been posted up before but I found this both shocking and fascinating

 

[elbows]

Link to source please.

 

[teuchter]

Not that surprising.
They've been a little naughty with their Y axis range though.

 

[killer b]

looks like it's the research detailed here

Five charts that reveal how remote working could change the UK

A new economic model of how remote working is developing reveals some interesting results.

theconversation.com