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zora said:
Ugh, yes, I understand not wanting to set a particular date for coming out of lockdown into stone - but some kind of cornerstones of what sort of incidence is the goal, what sort of a strategy how then to keep it controlled...anything..? Ah, thought not. :(
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I've got to say that when we were in a strict and long lockdown in Melbourne from July, releasing a roadmap that described the conditions we would need to satisfy to reopen at different levels was a huge help. At first it was a shock given the targets that needed to be met, and how far away it seemed. But then it sort of gave everyone something to aim for, a reason to follow the rules in order to reduce the numbers.
The conditions were all numbers-based rather than date-based, which avoided the"will we be able to do [x] at half-term/Christmas/Easter etc." thing that seems to be happening in the UK. Mind you, we were pursuing a completely different strategy (i.e. elimination) to the UK.
 
brogdale said:
Anyone with any direct experience (giving/receiving) of the vaccine able to respond to this sort of stuff being seen on SM?

Have to say I'd have expected there was some sort of leaflet for the oldies getting jabbed.

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I was given a leaflet. I’ll check it in the morning but I’m fairly sure it just talked about the vaccine itself and side effects.
I wasn’t given any advice about when I would have protection and they couldn’t give me a second Jab appt, apparently I’ll get an invite to book for 10-12 weeks time.
I got the info when I went to book in but I was called straight away so there was no time to read it.
 
editor said:
Industrial facepalm implementation needed:

www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk

Mass vaccination centre closing on Saturday - to allow horse racing to take place

SOMERSET’S only mass Covid-19 vaccination centre is closing this weekend - to allow for HORSE RACING to go ahead.
www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk
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I can't see the problem here.

“From the outset of our discussions with the racecourse, we knew that scheduled race meetings would continue to take place every 10 days to two weeks during the winter months.

"We have factored that into our planning, including scheduling of vaccination appointments and management of the venue for vaccinations.”

An NHS spokesman said that, as the impact of race days had been factored into the planning process, the numbers of vaccinations would not fall as a result of the closure.
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Having lived in Taunton, I can see the advantages of using the racecourse compared to any other venue available locally, even if the vaccination centre has to close on the occasional day.
 
The39thStep said:
Arriving, that's Border Control.
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lets not forget that just before christmas the rules in the UK were that those whose profession was of a certain type didnt need to be tested in order to travel without any testing requirements. Such as "working on an advertising film production crew" or being a business wanker.
Those professional types travelling to and from the UK are almost certainly to blame for the spread of the "British variant"
Funnily, when the PM was blathering on yesterday about it being more worse x 10 cos it's English "ENGERLAND!!!" a story was released here that said, there is no evidence of this at all. Smitter den britiske variant mindre, end vi troede? SSI-læge forklarer nye beregninger

You are being consistantly lied to. Recognise.

 
Boris Sprinkler said:
lets not forget that just before christmas the rules in the UK were that those whose profession was of a certain type didnt need to be tested in order to travel without any testing requirements. Such as "working on an advertising film production crew" or being a business wanker.
Those professional types travelling to and from the UK are almost certainly to blame for the spread of the "British variant"
Funnily, when the PM was blathering on yesterday about it being more worse x 10 cos it's English "ENGERLAND!!!" a story was released here that said, there is no evidence of this at all. Smitter den britiske variant mindre, end vi troede? SSI-læge forklarer nye beregninger

You are being consistantly lied to. Recognise.

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I can’t really believe I am making a defence for this shower of shite, but firstly they said ‘we think it is potentially between 30 to 70%’ more infective, so I don’t know where the 74% in that article comes from and they haven’t said it for definite. The scientists in that article then say ‘well actually it could be 20 - 50% more infectious, we need more data’ so I don’t get the point.

Of course we’re being lied to, about all sorts of things, but I dunno what you’re trying to prove with that article and the info given yesterday.
 
Boris Sprinkler said:
lets not forget that just before christmas the rules in the UK were that those whose profession was of a certain type didnt need to be tested in order to travel without any testing requirements. Such as "working on an advertising film production crew" or being a business wanker.
Those professional types travelling to and from the UK are almost certainly to blame for the spread of the "British variant"
Funnily, when the PM was blathering on yesterday about it being more worse x 10 cos it's English "ENGERLAND!!!" a story was released here that said, there is no evidence of this at all. Smitter den britiske variant mindre, end vi troede? SSI-læge forklarer nye beregninger

You are being consistantly lied to. Recognise.
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We were told during yesterday's press conference that it's been 30 & 70% contagious, so not that far out compared to the 20 & 50% mentioned in that article, especially as it goes on to say, ' it's a little lower than what we've heard from the UK. We just have to take it with caution, because these numbers are not set in stone. They may well change as we get more data'.
 
Yeah maybe Im biased. Cos I am external to that shite, and therefore maybe a bit more objective but those cunts and every fucking idiot that voted for them are still having an effect on my life. And they are being deliberately disingenius. They have no evidence, but are still willing to spread FUD. Fine people for doing people things (not if they are business wankers though cos thats ok, they dont need to get tested). Classist wankers.
 
It's a bit of a pisser/pfizer to get the vaccine after a year of terrible worry only to read conflicting but gloomy reports on its effectiveness.
 
Boris Sprinkler said:
Yeah maybe Im biased. Cos I am external to that shite, and therefore maybe a bit more objective but those cunts and every fucking idiot that voted for them are still having an effect on my life. And they are being deliberately disingenius. They have no evidence, but are still willing to spread FUD. Fine people for doing people things (not if they are business wankers though cos thats ok, they dont need to get tested). Classist wankers.
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Obviously they’re lying and being disingenuous about huge amounts, but I don’t think your article backs up the idea that we are being lied to about whether this particular strain is more contagious or not. It very much seems to be.

I’m sorry your life is affected by it in Denmark, try living in the UK under these wankers full time. :)
 
Boris Sprinkler said:
Yeah maybe Im biased. Cos I am external to that shite, and therefore maybe a bit more objective but those cunts and every fucking idiot that voted for them are still having an effect on my life. And they are being deliberately disingenius. They have no evidence, but are still willing to spread FUD. Fine people for doing people things (not if they are business wankers though cos thats ok, they dont need to get tested). Classist wankers.
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You're barking up the wrong tree with this, there's the evidence out there, it's not made up 'by the Tories'.
 
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