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The expanded Stanley Airfield was the same before MPA was finished - there's a picture floating about of a Chilean airliner taxiing with two RAF Phantoms behind it....
 
JFK seems a more unusual case though, not least because it is one of the busiest civilian airports in the world and there are must be plenty of alternatives for fighter jets to use in the area. La Guardia would seem a more logical choice as the closest air field to NYC, and Wiki lists a total of 16 primary and 2 secondary airports in New York State.

Yeah, that was a bit odd - the F-15's were from Seymour-Johnson AFB in North Carolina. They aren't the Air Superiority version either, so (probably) weren't there to provide security in a similar way to when RAF Typhoons were based at Northolt for the London Olympics.
 
I would turn the question right round, why shouldn't the Military use a Civilian facility?
It must be said that the take-off performance & time spent on the runway for those F-15s was pretty good, and four of them were dispatched away in far less time than it would to send out one civilian jet :D
 
I must admit, I was a bit :eek: about the notion of military aircraft using civilian airports - is it a very common thing, or just a US thing, or something really exceptional?

Worldwide, joint use of airports is indeed a very common thing. It’s only (but not exclusively) the most major airports that are dedicated to civilian traffic.

One example might be Frankfurt airport, which as well as being a major civilian hub, had a huge military presence on its south side till around 2010/12 - it has been redeveloped for freight/business since its closure.
 
I would turn the question right round, why shouldn't the Military use a Civilian facility?

I’d guess that some U.K. regional airports have been very happy to get RAF business during lockdown - I’ve noticed a big increase in training flights using Aberdeen (in a “what the fuck is that - how close are they - and it’s not on any of the flight paths!“ Kind of way) since this all began. Plus the “baddies“ for a NATO exercise took-over for a full week a few months back. Although that has happened occasionally before and whenever the runway at Kinloss needed repair, we used to get the Nimrods relocating for anything up to several months at a time.
 
Always some nice hotels near major airports.
I remember we once volunteered to be bumped off an overbooked BA evening flight at Heathrow for a bit of cash and a seat on the first morning flight out. They put us on one of the airport-side hotels lined alongside one of the runways.

The hotel had brochures on the counter promoting its ‘plane-spotting weekend special offer’, with ‘unrestricted runway views from the hotel rooftop’ for the boys, and all-day spa passes for the wife :D
 
We flew into Plovdiv on a Balkanair Tupolev in January 1990, just as the whole Communist Bloc was disintegrating. A military airfield and we all sat looking out of the windows as the AA batteries followed us onto the runway and up to the dispersal.
The questioning by the the dubious leather clad ‘customs officials’ caused some passengers to panic. Especially when their bags just got tipped onto the floor.
Happy days.
 
In the 80s my brother worked for a drinks company that sold a lot of Scotch in the Eastern Bloc. More than once he was visited by chaps in blazers who asked him to count how many warplanes he saw or see if a hangar was finished at some minor airport and they'd see him back in London. 'What happens if I'm sitting on the other side of the plane?' 'You won't be'
 
We flew into Plovdiv on a Balkanair Tupolev in January 1990, just as the whole Communist Bloc was disintegrating. A military airfield and we all sat looking out of the windows as the AA batteries followed us onto the runway and up to the dispersal.
The questioning by the the dubious leather clad ‘customs officials’ caused some passengers to panic. Especially when their bags just got tipped onto the floor.
Happy days.
I'd buy a novel that started with this paragraph...
 
Not sure if this is the right thread, apologies if not, but could anyone suggest what two planes I saw today? We get lots of RAF helicopters flying over us, and occasionally some small fighter jets mess about over the Severn Estuary, but today two very long thin black planes, with a slight bulge at the back like engines, flew across the Somerset levels alongside the River Severn at a speed I’ve not seen before and making a quite phenomenal noise, especially given how far away they were. I sort of thought they looked like Blackbirds, but Wikipedia says they’ve been retired now, so no idea. Would love to know though, never seen planes that loud or that fast before.
 
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Not sure if this is the right thread, apologies if not, but could anyone suggest what two planes I saw today? We get lots of RAF helicopters flying over us, and occasionally some small fighter jets mess about over the Severn Estuary, but today two very long thin black planes, with a slight bulge at the back like engines, flew across the Somerset levels alongside the River Severn at a speed I’ve not seen before and making a quite phenomenal noise, especially given how far away they were. I sort of thought they looked like Blackbirds, but Wikipedia says they’ve been retired now, so no idea. Would love to know though, never seen planes that loud or that fast before.
There's been a fair amount zooming around here, reasonably NW of you, but Castlemartin has had some proper old bangs going on today, so maybe some big multi-arms job?
 
Gerry1time if you have a look at a couple of the flight tracking websites you'll see that some have a rewind facility - put the time in that you saw them, fiddle with the map, and they may appear, though lots of military flights aren't using transponders, so they won't come up...

Could you say a bit more about them - sweptt wings or straight wings, one tail or two, general shape etc...?

Trying to work out size and distance with planes is pretty hard - the only thing I can think of that's big, fast, and low is a B-1B. They are dark, with engines at the back. Didn't know there were in the UK at the moment though....
 
You can't get much more Cold War than this lot:


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