Every time incidents like this happen police friendly accounts come out - he jumped the barrier, he had wires coming out of his coat, he was changing buses to avoid being followed, police shouted armed police - and that’s just Jean Charles de Menezes.
The article says he was sentenced for possession of an IMITATION firearm.
It appears that not all the alleged witnesses to the shooting of the Late Chris Kaba are prepared to follow the script circulated by the Metropolitan Police:
"A 39-year-old man, who lives on nearby New Park Road and asked not to be named, told the PA news agency: “The (driver) drove up New Park Road and turned up Kirkstall Gardens.
“A police car came down Kirkstall Gardens and crashed into him.
“Another police car came in behind him and they had him locked in at the bottom of Kirkstall Gardens.
“The car was immobile when he was shot.”
(Source: Man shot dead by police ‘was due to become a father’, Evening Standard, 7 September 2022)
In other developments:
“The family of Chris Kaba seek a homicide investigation into his death from the outset. We have today told the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) of that demand and that we do not want any delay as has happened in other fatal shootings – otherwise we and the wider public can have no confidence that the police will be held to account.
We also want the IOPC to tell us whether or not a weapon was found in any search of the vehicle that Chris was driving. We have not received this information even though the shooting happened almost two days’ ago.
Finally, we are desperately appealing for any witnesses, whether before, during or after the pursuit and the shooting, to come forward to the IOPC and / or to our solicitors at Hickman and Rose.
We are devastated; we need answers and we need accountability. We are worried that if Chris had not been Black, he would have been arrested on Monday evening and not had his life cut short.”
(Source: Statement issued by the family of the Late Chris Kaba, 7 September 2022)
Like me, Chris grew up in this area. His family have since moved from the area but he has a lot of friends here and with the level of mistrust in particular, communities - black, African and Caribbean communities - you can see what people are thinking.
'Especially what they were thinking when they heard this had happened and they didn't have any of the initial details.
'As far as they were concerned, in that particular situation, there could have been a different outcome.
'Now it's right that there is an IOPC investigation and with that we hope to get the information on what has happened but it's no surprise that Chris's family are now calling for a murder investigation.
'And no surprise that because of what has happened and because of all of the incidents we've seen in the past that they believe this is a racist incident.'
'The major issue is that they didn't give key information right at the beginning,'
'Key information which as far as we're concerned wouldn't have prejudiced the investigation.'
(Source: Bell Ribeiro-Addy, Member of Parliament for Streatham, Good Morning Britain, 7 September 2022)
"... We understand at this stage that police officers in an armed response vehicle attempted to stop the vehicle Mr Kaba was in, following the activation of an automatic number plate recognition camera which indicated the vehicle was linked to a firearms incident in the previous days ...
A detailed search of the scene and surrounding area was completed last night. No non-police issue firearm has been recovered from the vehicle or the scene ..."
(Source: Update #2: Investigation into fatal Met police shooting in Lambeth, Independent Office for Police Conduct, 7 September 2022)
(Source: The family of the Late Chris Kaba)
Anyone with information that may be useful in helping the Independent Office for Police Conduct determine precisely what took place on the evening of Monday 5 September 2022 is asked to contact the Independent Office for Police Conduct by phoning 0300 303 0779 or by emailing witness@policeconduct.gov.uk - referencing “Streatham Hill”.
True - one can get overturned the other can’t.
I have had lived experience of policing - and reasons to be critical.
Fair enoughI have had lived experience of policing - and reasons to be critical.
Could go on at length, but that is me - this is a particular current event.
To me it's a moral issue. And it starts with finding a better way to deal with drug gangsterism that shoot outs.
And - most important this reflex reaction of "Black male = taser or police marksman"
Look at the poor guy with learning difficulties murdered on Chelsea Bridge by applying a taser like a terror weapon.
Chelsea Bridge death: family say Met police wrong to Taser man
Relatives of Oladeji Omishore say 41-year-old was ‘clearly in distress’ and Met actions contributed to his deathwww.theguardian.com
It's got to stop and I have no confidence in Suella Braverman stopping it.
Look at the poor guy with learning difficulties murdered on Chelsea Bridge by applying a taser like a terror weapon.
Chelsea Bridge death: family say Met police wrong to Taser man
Relatives of Oladeji Omishore say 41-year-old was ‘clearly in distress’ and Met actions contributed to his death
The police have killed an unarmed man. They seem to have admitted they didn’t know who he was as it wasn’t his car. Even if he was involved in gangs that’s no justification. Why are you so quick to defend?
You’re making quite an assumption that he was using the car as a weapon - even if he was, was deadly force necessary.We need some official guidance on when a car is a deadly weapon and when it isn’t.
Elucidate? If you are a member of the public that is. My particular problem in this discussion is that I am 68 and haven't been mugged, or threatened with it since at least 2000. On the other hand I have lived in central Brixton since 1978. But there again central Brixton isn't where the action is - any more.
Sorry - yes, must have mixed you up. But driving a vehicle can’t really be described as armed can it?
It’s pure speculation he was killed for driving at the police based on that one dodgy witness account. To call him armed for driving a car is obviously ridiculous.
You don't always post with concision. Do you think that verbosity undermines evidence? I look forward to seeing this convenient witness's evidence tested in court
