Chilcot Iraq Enquiry.

[mauvais]

It's Wednesday here. Where's the bloody report

No sleep til Chilcot!

 

[Duncan2]

That's the one it was capable of being carried by Tornados.

 

[mauvais]

That's the one it was capable of being carried by Tornados.

Thing is, there's nothing that special about the concept in itself. When you're getting increasingly likely to go to war, but by no means certain, 'urgent operational requirements' would be issued as preparation (and once at war too). The alternative is letting the slow, decades-long process of procurement plod on unchallenged. That's not to say there's not a smoking gun in there, but 'get your missile ready' or whatever isn't in itself particularly special.

 

[Duncan2]

Thing is, there's nothing that special about the concept in itself. When you're getting increasingly likely to go to war, but by no means certain, 'urgent operational requirements' would be issued as preparation (and once at war too). The alternative is letting the slow, decades-long process of procurement plod on unchallenged. That's not to say there's not a smoking gun in there, but 'get your missile ready' or whatever isn't in itself particularly special.

Agreed but he mentioned a very senior figure making the request who he declined to name and said he was left in no doubt that the intention was to go in.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Why are people eager for the report? Has Tom Sawyer a fence needs touching up?

 

[Hocus Eye.]

I wonder what time the Chilcot report will be issued. Will it be at Midnight tonight so that the papers can get a start on checking it? As it is 4 times the length of War and Peace it will take even experienced journalists a long time to digest. Perhaps some kind of computer software could skim read it.

 

[weltweit]

11am Wednesday is Chilcot's press conference, after which the website will be open and the conclusions can be read for free. Politicos have had the report since 11am today to get a head start. I don't know about the press.

 

[BandWagon]

In reports like that there's usually a summary with the detail behind.

 

[gosub]

Interesting interview on C4 News with former First Sea Lord who had some interesting things to say about the timeline of advanced preparations for war made by the Navy & arms producers. When Jon Snow asked him if he had made these things clear to Chilcot he said that he hadn't...largely because he wasn't asked to give evidence to the inquiry.

Remember Paris saying the operational factors of the tanks would be limited by the summer heat

 

[weltweit]

Iraq Inquiry: Chilcot says 'careful analysis needed before war' - BBC News

 

[binka]

Is anyone here planning on reading the whole report?

 

[two sheds]

get a couple of million people and we could all take a word each

 

[Hocus Eye.]

11am Wednesday is Chilcot's press conference, after which the website will be open and the conclusions can be read for free. Politicos have had the report since 11am today to get a head start. I don't know about the press.

Yes that is true I have just seen that on the television. The press don't need factual information, they thrive on rumour and speculation. Facts only get in the way of their usual modus operandi.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

In reports like that there's usually a summary with the detail behind.

That'll still be a fairly long document to read though. 150 pages?

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

11am Wednesday is Chilcot's press conference, after which the website will be open and the conclusions can be read for free. Politicos have had the report since 11am today to get a head start. I don't know about the press.

Press at 8am on the morning of publication. Their ctrl and f keys will be getting it tight.

 

[Hocus Eye.]

That'll still be a fairly long document to read though. 150 pages?

Well that is about the same length as a short novel. I wonder if it turns out to be a whodunnit. In that case you just need to read the last chapter.

 

[steveo87]

So, who's camping outside Waterstones tonight to get their hands on the goods? Bring £767 (actual price!) and a rucksack full of amphetamines.

Worst. Rave. Ever.

 

[hash tag]

From BBC

"The report will be published in hard copy in two formats. The full report will consist of 12 volumes and will be 2.6 million words long. Anyone wanting to buy a copy will have to pay £767 and contact The Stationery Office, the private firm which has printed the document. A 150-page executive summary is being published separately. This will cost £30"

I think many of us have already made up our minds about the war regardless of what the report says. However, this is a report on Blair and the UK's involvement? Is it going to say Blair is a war criminal and should be locked up; I doubt it. I have not seen anyone mention what it's implications are for the States ie if the report says the war was illegal as it was not sanctioned by the UN then it was illegal for both us and the States right?

 

[newbie]

as an aside, i recall getting off a place in Cypus and being required to have my NBC suit and respirator with me at all times - we had at least one alert in the day i was there. sirens, everyone screaming 'gas, gas, gas!' and at least one person trying to decide whether it was better to piss inside the suit and live with the stench of urine, or keep pissing out and take the risk.

There's villages and tourists just outside Alkrotiri, did the people there also have to carry protection?

 

[danny la rouge]

Is anyone here planning on reading the whole report?

No.

And I don't just mean me. I can confidently predict that nobody here will read the whole report.

 

[emanymton]

No.

And I don't just mean me. I can confidently predict that nobody here will read the whole report.

Some bloody minded bastard will do it now, just to prove you wrong. Won't be me though I'm far to lazy.

 

[danny la rouge]

Some bloody minded bastard will do it now, just to prove you wrong.

Maybe that's what I hoped.

 

[kebabking]

There's villages and tourists just outside Alkrotiri, did the people there also have to carry protection?

you'd have to ask the government of Cyprus...

 

[newbie]

you'd have to ask the government of Cyprus...

 

[mauvais]

Worst. Rave. Ever.

It's a gateway rave though isn't it. If Chilcot knows anything it's where the best minefields are.

 

[DaveCinzano]

get a couple of million people and we could all take a word each

We already have all the words we need, just not necessarily in the right order

 

[mauvais]

We already have all the words we need, just not necessarily in the right order

The chant begins: Seven more years! Seven more years!

 

[Kaka Tim]

When do we get this report?

And what degree a disappointment can we expect in its failure to properly hold those responsible to account?
Depressingly - Dismally - Predictably - Infuriatingly?

 

[weltweit]

When do we get this report?

We get this report at just after 11am today.

Only 2.25 hours to go

 

[danny la rouge]

When do we get this report?

11am.

And what degree a disappointment can we expect in its failure to properly hold those responsible to account?
Depressingly - Dismally - Predictably - Infuriatingly?

It'll do as expected: go into the minutiae of Whitehall processes. It has no remit to declare anyone a war criminal, and won't.