Change UK: Chuka Umunna resigns from Labour party and launches Independent Group

[belboid]

Yes. And some of it is truly vile. What we don't know is how much is from LP members/supporters and the left archipelago around Corbyn and how much is from far right scum.

We do have a pretty good idea, actually. All of the bullshit from the left is restricted to being rude on social media, the rape and death threats have come from one side only.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

We do have a pretty good idea, actually. All of the bullshit from the left is restricted to being rude on social media, the rape and death threats have come from one side only.

Haven't seen this evidence you cite but sounds about right.

 

[klang]

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sometimes I wonder what the point is.

 

[Wilf]

Anyway, presumably any further Tory defections will wait till the eve of the next Brexit vote or at least the point where May starts snogging the erg? Inbetween, we'll have a couple more Labour defectors who suddenly decide Corbyn is an antisemite. Might get up to about 18 by the end of the month.

Small earth quake in Westminster. No real people killed.

 

[Pickman's model]

Anyway, presumably any further Tory defections will wait till the eve of the next Brexit vote or at least the point where May starts snogging the erg? Inbetween, we'll have a couple more Labour defectors who suddenly decide Corbyn is an antisemite. Might get up to about 18 by the end of the month.

Small earth quake in Westminster. No real people killed.

tbh it's more of a fart than an arsequake

 

[Wilf]

tbh it's more of a fart than an arsequake

A Sinclair C5 moment.

 

[Pickman's model]

A Sinclair C5 moment.

yeh where for a few minutes there is mass hysteria as people think 'this may be the shape of the future' followed by a sudden realisation it was all a horrid mistake

 

[TopCat]

I hope its more tories who jump now. Makes it more obvious then if any more Labour jump.

 

[moochedit]

*cough*

"Why the independent group are shit" ?

Is it too early to go with a Why the Independent group are shit thread?

 

[Wilf]

I hope its more tories who jump now. Makes it more obvious then if any more Labour jump.

You can imagine their first meeting:
"Gee, all those times we used to oppose each other over austerity and stuff! All the while, ha ha, we were the same"!

 

[Wilf]

Guardian are now on Philip Lee watch as the next possible (tory) defector. Apparently he visited number 10 this morning and looked 'unhappy'. I'm more concerned that he wasn't wearing a tie, the monster.

13:02 Brexit: Hammond warns of no-deal damage as more Tories consider exit - politics live

 

[moochedit]

Guardian are now on Philip Lee watch as the next possible (tory) defector. Apparently he visited number 10 this morning and looked 'unhappy'. I'm more concerned that he wasn't wearing a tie, the monster.

13:02 Brexit: Hammond warns of no-deal damage as more Tories consider exit - politics live

Who?

 

[Lord Camomile]

Guardian are now on Philip Lee watch as the next possible (tory) defector. Apparently he visited number 10 this morning and looked 'unhappy'.

I mean, wouldn't everyone?

 

[danny la rouge]

I mean, wouldn't everyone?

It’s hardly a smoking gun, is it?

 

[treelover]

You can imagine their first meeting:
"Gee, all those times we used to oppose each other over austerity and stuff! All the while, ha ha, we were the same"!

Soubry more or less described a meeting of minds like that, here eyes were glossing over as if it was a religious experience, I think Heidi will be a bit more practical/robust.

 

[killer b]

Soubry more or less described a meeting of minds like that, here eyes were glossing over as if it was a religious experience, I think Heidi will be a bit more practical/robust.

Why are you on first name terms with Allen, but second with Soubry?

 

[Teaboy]

Anyway, presumably any further Tory defections will wait till the eve of the next Brexit vote or at least the point where May starts snogging the erg?

Tory MP for Bracknell (can't be bothered to look him up) was on Radio yesterday afternoon saying that May refuses to meet the Tory group who are pushing for a second vote. Refuses outright to have a single meeting with them yet (and I quote) "...is prepared to have seemingly daily meetings with the ERG".

He was citing this as the reason the 3 leavers had reached exasperation point. If true though, its already beyond kissing and tongues are involved.

 

[Wilf]

Why are you on first name terms with Allen, but second with Soubry?

Good point, b.

 

[Wilf]

Tory MP for Bracknell (can't be bothered to look him up) was on Radio yesterday afternoon saying that May refuses to meet the Tory group who are pushing for a second vote. Refuses outright to have a single meeting with them yet (and I quote) "...is prepared to have seemingly daily meetings with the ERG".

He was citing this as the reason the 3 leavers had reached exasperation point. If true though, its already beyond kissing and tongues are involved.

It's Philip Lee, he of the unhappy face.

 

[billy_bob]

You can imagine their first meeting:
"Gee, all those times we used to oppose each other over austerity and stuff! All the while, ha ha, we were the same"!

'All this time, turns out it was us who were the sinister group of shadowy figures faking party loyalties while serving only their own interests, not the Jews.

Wait, Luciana - come back!'

 

[killer b]

Good point, b.

Allen seems to be the Tory it's ok to like - a view which doesn't really stand up to scrutiny imo.

 

[Sue]

Who?

Exactly. He'll fit right in.

 

[Teaboy]

Allen seems to be the Tory it's ok to like - a view which doesn't really stand up to scrutiny imo.

Probably entirely unrelated to her physical appearance I imagine.

 

[belboid]

Guardian are now on Philip Lee watch as the next possible (tory) defector. Apparently he visited number 10 this morning and looked 'unhappy'. I'm more concerned that he wasn't wearing a tie, the monster.

13:02 Brexit: Hammond warns of no-deal damage as more Tories consider exit - politics live

He staying put, all a great big misunderstanding, apparently.

"Philip Lee had been considered a possible Tory defector when he didn’t answer calls from reporters - only for it to transpire that he had been at the cinema with his wife"

 

[billy_bob]

Allen seems to be the Tory it's ok to like - a view which doesn't really stand up to scrutiny imo.

Are you saying it might be based on something surface-deep only?

 

[killer b]

Not sure it's much of a slam-dunk to not know (or perform not knowing) who a back bencher is btw. No-one who's resigned so far (other than Shuker maybe) has been truly obscure.

 

[Wilf]

What kind of weirdo turns their phone off in the cinema?

 

[Lord Camomile]

What kind of weirdo turns their phone off in the cinema?

My kind of weirdo

 

[killer b]

Are you saying it might be based on something surface-deep only?

Also her compassionate conservatism shtick.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Not sure it's much of a slam-dunk to not know (or perform not knowing) who a back bencher is btw. No-one who's resigned so far (other than Shuker maybe) has been truly obscure.

I assure you, my ignorance is no performance