Champion Hill: Proposed Ground Redevelopment
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Pink Panther
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I would imagine an alternative 3G pitch would be laid somewhere nearby, like the adjacent playing fields where the team already trains.
I just don't see any point worrying about that right now. 3G pitches need replacing every 5 years or so, the technology of both natural and artificial (and hybrid) pitches is evolving and improving all the time.
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pettyboy
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Interesting to see Harrogate Town go up to the FL on Sunday, who have a 3G pitch.
They'll play at Doncaster while their grass pitch is laid - Harrogate Town's temporary EFL home will be Doncaster
They'll play at Doncaster while their grass pitch is laid - Harrogate Town's temporary EFL home will be Doncaster
blueheaven
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Surely it's only a matter of time before the EFL relaxes its rules on artificial surfaces? Can't really see what the benefit is of keeping them outlawed when they're so beneficial to clubs. In Scotland they're permitted right up to Premiership level these days.
With all due respect, that's not quite the complete picture. Yes you can get promoted to the FL with a 4000 capacity ground, but you then have one season to get your ground capacity up to 5000. One season. If you can't do it then you're chucked out. Similarly, yes, you can get promoted to the FL with 500 seats, but you have one season to reach 1000 seats otherwise you're chucked out. You then have a further two years to reach 2000 seats, otherwise you're chucked out. The long-term minimum ground requirements are 5000 capacity and 2000 seats, but newly promoted sides are given a short grace period to reach this. So if you are truly intending to future-proof your ground for FL requirements then it needs to have the capability to reach 5000 capacity with 2000 seats. And from what I've seen of your stadium plans, that's going to be difficult.
The occasional exception does sneak through: AFC Wimbledon were short by about 150 on the capacity requirements at Kingsmeadow, but they were let off because they were planning to build a new ground. Accrington were also given an extended grace period (I can't remember why) but I'm pretty sure they are now fully compliant.
Finally, congratulations on getting planning permission for your new ground. I hope it serves you well, and good luck for the new season.
PartisanDulwich
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when we buy the Sainsbury's site and build 25k stadium - all will be fine #dreams
Paula_G
Flitting in & out like Tinkerbell on Meth
Interesting tactic from the opposition, breeding rare breeds then releasing them into their “natural” habitat of the Greendales... Rare butterfly makes return to Camberwell
Al Cunningham
Brockley Hamlet
Is the next stage to seek formal approval from Sadiq Khan ?
pompeydunc
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The Mayor's office indicated their support as part of the Southwark planning stage, so would be a massive surprise if this then changed.
Al Cunningham
Brockley Hamlet
I see the SLP are running with a front page story that Martin Seaton is bring investigated by Southwark Council about how he conducted the planning meeting
Al Cunningham
Brockley Hamlet
Pink Panther
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I hope this is all just hot air. It sounded at the time like John abused his position as Council leader to exert undue influence over the meeting, in which case Seaton (as Chair) was surely within his rights to block him?
Is it really "Southwark Council" doing this, or is it Peter John meddling? It seems a bit odd the way he's so opposed to the development having masqueraded as a supporter of the club a couple of years ago.
Paula_G
Flitting in & out like Tinkerbell on Meth
As I read this I don’t think Peter John is opposed to the stadium part of the application but still feels that the property development side of things falls short on a number of things especially the “affordable” housing part of the application. I’m in the minds of a lot of Dulwich supporters this comes under the “doing a deal with the devil” part of ensuring the future of the club..
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hiraethified
It was too bitter a pill for me to swallow, I'm afraid, but I kept it to myself for the sake of the club.
If the developer had been proposing a similar deal anywhere else but Hamlet I would have ripped the fuck out of them on Brixton Buzz/urban75. They're utter cunts and I'm confident they'll do their best to wriggle out of as many commitments as possible as the development progresses.
Nivag
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He's a bit late in having them thoughts considering the developments he ok'd during his time on the council. Unless this wasn't one that had a contingency/extras plan.
Pink Panther
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Whilst I agree, the development that was approved seems like the quickest way to get them out of our hair once and for all and secure the club's long term future at Champion Hill. After such a lengthy saga any further complications are unwelcome.
And if Southwark Council engages in legal action and loses, who endsup paying for that? As a Southwark social housing tenant and tax payer I'm livid. I understand approximately 44% of Southwark homes are social housing, which is the highest percentage of any borough in England.
PartisanDulwich
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This is all hot air
just covering backs because some people complained that they lost
To be fair while the first 4 hours was nail biting the vote turned into a hilarious commentary on Urban75
just covering backs because some people complained that they lost
To be fair while the first 4 hours was nail biting the vote turned into a hilarious commentary on Urban75
The problem Southwark face is if there was an illegality they are potentially on the hook massively. It would be a lot cheaper to investigate and react than wait for a third party to act. If an allegation has been made, they probably have a legal responsibility to investigate.
This is only an investigation. No specific allegations are public. However Southwark are almost certainly protecting their ratepayers by investigating.
If it goes further than this it may be a worry. At the moment it is what it is.
In the short run potentially playing a full season without fans is probably a bigger threat to the club.
This is only an investigation. No specific allegations are public. However Southwark are almost certainly protecting their ratepayers by investigating.
If it goes further than this it may be a worry. At the moment it is what it is.
In the short run potentially playing a full season without fans is probably a bigger threat to the club.
PartisanDulwich
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To be fair Peter John did some important work in saving the club when we were sent into exile
However, as local ward Councillor he always opposed Meadows proposals to build so many houses
Think that is a legitimate position - even if I don't personally think it would have resolved our issues/problems
However, as local ward Councillor he always opposed Meadows proposals to build so many houses
Think that is a legitimate position - even if I don't personally think it would have resolved our issues/problems
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