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Champion Hill: Proposed Ground Redevelopment

That's great news. Watched some of the meeting online last night - bloody hell, they sure know how to drag a discussion out!

Can I ask the club people on here what the next steps are at this point? Does this basically mean Meadow are free to start right away? Or is there some sort of appeals process that will happen first? Also is the stadium design actually finalised?
 
There is no appeal for an approval i believe (unless you judicially review). The commitment (which now forms a condition) is to build the stadium first before the pitch is built on. Not sure about timing.
 
Let's now see how skilled the developers are in reducing what they've supposedly committed to build as far as the stadium is concerned, and how successful Southwark are in enforcing whatever conditions they've put on it.
 
Fantastic news. Just rubber stamping by the Mayor hopefully and the builders can get going.

That was a real rollacoaster of a night, watched most of it and felt sick all evening. The vote was like the playoff penalty shootout!!
 
Last night I learnt that Meadow are shunting all the poor people buying (guffaw) 'affordable' flats in their development into the one block to keep them away from the upmarket residents.
 
Are there clear plans for the new stadium? Will we have cover at both ends? Tried googling for the new stadium design, but can't find very much at all.
 
Reading between the lines of what has happened, the two ends are probably on Metropolitan Open Land and any permanent protruding structure there would have caused serious planning permission issues, so no cover was included judging by the illustration.
 
Great result credit to those from the Club that got us here -
Big thanks to professional officers at Southwark Council and Chair of Planning Councillor Martin Seaton (and Councillors who supported)
- still a long way to go to secure the stadium we and the Community want and need
vigilance & planning key over the next few years
and that includes environmental improvements to Greendale, that we have a moral obligation to ensure are fulfilled in full and beyond
 
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Moroccan Sunset said:
Are there clear plans for the new stadium? Will we have cover at both ends? Tried googling for the new stadium design, but can't find very much at all.
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I'm sure there was talk of retractable canopies behind the goals but I can't recall exact details. Bognor erected a large canvas canopy at the clubhouse end of their ground since our last visit but it blew down in a storm shortly before the lockdown.
 
Roger D said:
Reading between the lines of what has happened, the two ends are probably on Metropolitan Open Land and any permanent protruding structure there would have caused serious planning permission issues, so no cover was included judging by the illustration.
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There's no reading between the lines needed, that's explicitly been the argument used to excuse building on open land.

My guess is there'll be a gradual accumulation of 'temporary' structures, and in ten or twenty years the club (or whatever entity exists by then) will apply for permission to build something permanent and hope that everyone has forgotten the original justification.
 
editor said:
Last night I learnt that Meadow are shunting all the poor people buying (guffaw) 'affordable' flats in their development into the one block to keep them away from the upmarket residents.
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That's what every developer does in these builds. Even down to making the outside areas are designed so the residents in the 'affordable' block don't easily mingle with the full fat ones.
 
Monkeygrinder's Organ said:
No-one in the 'affordable' block is going to be poor by any normal standard anyway. TBH this is obviously good news for the club so I'm very pleased about that but Meadow getting their millions makes me a bit queasy.
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Meadow are absolute scumbags. And now they've got the millions in the bag, just watch them water down and wriggle out of their commitments in this development.
 
teuchter said:
There's no reading between the lines needed, that's explicitly been the argument used to excuse building on open land.

My guess is there'll be a gradual accumulation of 'temporary' structures, and in ten or twenty years the club (or whatever entity exists by then) will apply for permission to build something permanent and hope that everyone has forgotten the original justification.
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Whilst I can see why that is plausible, it's been done enough times elsewhere, I can't see that happening here. I expect the Friends will watch the site very closely and flag any infractions.

I also doubt the club would want to put themselves in breach of the lease, which doing that could plausibly do.
 
Nivag said:
That's what every developer does in these builds. Even down to making the outside areas are designed so the residents in the 'affordable' block don't easily mingle with the full fat ones.
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I'm housing association tenant in a large mixed block in Southwark, 104 flats on eight floors. The ground floor is allocated to those with reduced mobility and floors 1-4 (at least on my side of the block) seems to be social housing, as my initial offer letter only specified a flat on floors 1-4. (I'm on the first floor.) There are numerous similar modern blocks nearby and it doesn't feel exclusive. I feel very fortunate to have an ideal flat in a nice place where I'm comfortable, at a genuinely affordable rent, although I'm still very angry that so many others aren't that fortunate whilst an affluent minority makes a mint from buy-to-let schemes etc. I regard lack of affordable housing as the UK's greatest crisis, as it leads to so many other problems.
 
editor said:
Last night I learnt that Meadow are shunting all the poor people buying (guffaw) 'affordable' flats in their development into the one block to keep them away from the upmarket residents.
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Let's not pretend for a second that there is anything good about Meadow's development. There will be no 'poor' people housed in the new flats. Affordable housing does not mean council housing and it is little more than a get-out clause.
 
I am happy there will at least be a stadium, and therefore a future for the club, but the stadium does not particually look like it has been designed with fans in mind. Its an after thought for a private housing estate. But that's what we have.
 
oh that seems to have been answered already earlier in the thread:

crocustim said:
I was also worried about this so asked at the consultation. If I remember correctly the walkways are 3 meters wide and don’t have the pinch points that we currently have in the far corner. I think it will be an improvement.
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