Celebrity Big Brother 2007

[RaverDrew]

Jade who never eats curry or kebabs or mexican food...I just think the comments are directed at Shilpa for the sake of it...

I think I'd be mortified too if I sat down to eat a traditional sunday roast, only to find that some control freak had defiled my chicken by turning it into a fucking tandoori.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

If you add complaints to channel 4 the number is now 4500: http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,,1991524,00.html

Ch4 must be laughing, wonder if this has turned round the falling ratings?

 

[tommers]

I think I'd be mortified too if I sat down to eat a traditional sunday roast, only to find that some control freak had defiled my chicken by turning it into a fucking tandoori.

mate, if somebody has "defiled" your chicken then it tasting a bit funny is the least of your worries.

 

[Griff]

Aside from all this racist/not racist stuff, any news on a new housemate(s) or Lauren Harries?

 

[Treacle Toes]

I think I'd be mortified too if I sat down to eat a traditional sunday roast, only to find that some control freak had defiled my chicken by turning it into a fucking tandoori.

Yeap I suppose you would....However, the chicken was cooked for the 2 hours that the motley crew had insisted on...but it's somehow still Shilpa's fault.

 

[Treacle Toes]

And you are obviously oblivious to Shilpas role in this. Not that I'm condoning racism or suggesting it's not there. It was after all JJ who referred to Jades family as "White trash"

I not saying she is a saint and i'd like to think i'd handle it differently but she is being picked on plain and simple.
I believe JJ comment was, 'I wouldn't use it but some people would say that...'

My comments on using phrase like' white trash' have been made lots of times on this very thread.

So the fuck what? If some stupid celebs don't actually know that it's unsafe to eat an undercooked chicken, or are too scared of offending Shilpa to refuse to eat it, that makes the chicken OK? Do you know how to cook a chicken?

Ummm maybe because they hadn't sat around for 2 hours winding themselves into a lather, waiting to find fault....they were not scared of offending Shilpa, they simply had no need to. It's very different.

Also, yes I know how to cook chicken, my roasts are fantastic!
But I imagine my first one wasn't so hot.Hey you want to come round for dinner on Sunday?

Several times they offered her advice, which in no way could be constued as bullying, however, she, the whingeing twat felt they were having a go. They weren't.

They offered her advice, she took it, the chicken was cooked for 2 hours, it still wasn't good enough, did they need to go on and on and on? Sometimes it is not 'what' is being said it's the 'way' it's being said.

Then you're even more stupid than the above comment suggests. You'd risk salmonella poisoning because you want to show gratitude?

Don't be ridiculous. most of the chicken was cooked perfectly I would have been fine. You know my point was that there was no need to keep on at her.

 

[diego]

Never mind the white bit, but Jade is trash!

 

[Louloubelle]

well most of them seem to have eaten some, nobody's got sick so far, for all we know the chicken was cooked really well and the comments about it being undercooked were just more of the same old spiteful bullying

she leaves poohs in the toilet, she's a dog, she stinks of curry, she's unhygenic as she eats with her fingers, the food she cooks is poison, etc. etc as nauseum

it's all really primitive, nasty stuff, horrible projections and malicious envious attacks from a group of nobodies onto someone who is beautiful, dignified and actually has talent

 

[Treacle Toes]

It has now been established that he actually said that she was a "fucking cunt" (at least, that is what Channel 4 are saying)

Can you see why playing this down is really important to channel 4?

FWIW I don't know what Jack actually said...that's because Channel 4 bleeped it out, it could have been 'cunt' or 'paki', don't know.

That aside, enough has gone on since....people are not complaining about what Jack did or didn't say...they are complaining about what they are seeing and how by letting it go on channel 4 are party to it.

 

[STFC]

Never mind the white bit, but Jade is trash!

She's mixed race, isn't she?

 

[tommers]

She's mixed race, isn't she?

dual heritage actually.

 

[Treacle Toes]

She's mixed race, isn't she?

Yes she is....her father is mixed race. However, Jade shows little self awareness, cultural or racial.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Can you see why playing this down is really important to channel 4?

FWIW I don't know what Jack actually said...that's because Channel 4 bleeped it out, it could have been 'cunt' or 'paki', don't know.

That aside, enough has gone on since....people are not complaining about what Jack did or didn't say...they are complaining about what they are seeing and how by letting it go on channel 4 are party to it.

Surely if people are actually complaining Ofcom could demand the unedited tapes and see for themselves?

 

[The Sick Anchor]

it's all really primitive, nasty stuff, horrible projections and malicious envious attacks from a group of nobodies onto someone who is beautiful, dignified and actually has talent

carloe called jacky sub-human, that's probably the nastiest most primitive malicious thing i've seen on bb this year, don't think there were any compliaints received about that, ditto the white trash thing

 

[Louloubelle]

carloe called jacky sub-human, that's probably the nastiest most primitive malicious thing i've seen on bb this year, don't think there were any compliaints received about that, ditto the white trash thing

It's not a very nice thing to call someone but if you can't see the difference between insulting someone who has a lot of support / family in the house and a sustained campaign of bullying against someone who's been isolated by bullying then I feel sorry for you

 

[Kid_Eternity]

dual heritage actually.

Eh? I never use that term about myself, prefer mixed race.

 

[Miss Potter]

carloe called jacky sub-human, that's probably the nastiest most primitive malicious thing i've seen on bb this year, don't think there were any compliaints received about that, ditto the white trash thing

in fact she called her sub-normal so there wouldn't have been complaints about that cos she's got a point

 

[Treacle Toes]

Eh? I never use that term about myself, prefer mixed race.

Me too.

 

[Treacle Toes]

carloe called jacky sub-human, that's probably the nastiest most primitive malicious thing i've seen on bb this year, don't think there were any compliaints received about that, ditto the white trash thing

Yeah, I didn't like that at all. Found it all far too victorian....Carole seemed to think she was doing her a favour, kind of said it to excuse jackiey's unfortunate behaviour.

 

[The Sick Anchor]

in fact she called her sub-normal so there wouldn't have been complaints about that cos she's got a point

in what way?

 

[Treacle Toes]

Channel 4 Speak.....

C4 statement on racism, bullying controversy
Day 14, 17:51 UTC - by James Welsh

Channel 4 has released a statement regarding the growing controversy over alleged incidents of racism and bullying in the house.

The broadcaster's full statement follows:

"Matters of bullying or racial abuse in any form are taken extremely seriously by Channel 4 and Endemol. The nature of the show often includes incidents where conflicts arise and housemates are encouraged to resolve issues among themselves.

"Housemates are closely monitored at all times to ensure they have the appropriate support inside the house which includes being able to talk in confidence to producers. Shilpa herself has not voiced any concerns of racial slurs or bullying against her.

"Appropriate measures to reprimand individual behaviour would take place where necessary."

 

[Treacle Toes]

Especially like this bit.....

[Shilpa herself has not voiced any concerns of racial slurs or bullying against her.

Ermmmmmmm maybe because a lotthe worst of it is said behind her back....she may not see or hear it, but we are.

 

[Ms Ordinary]

This story has just been on Newsround... complaints at 7600 and Jade's photo has been removed from an anti-bullying website aimed at children. (Although thats probably a bit of a non-story as it sounds like the photo was used without her knowledge & she wasn't an actual anti-bullying spokesperson anyway).

On another note, FWIW, I think I'd rather be called a Paki by someone who was friendly but a bit ignorant, than be called a cunt by someone who was being racist, but that's just me .

(Haven't watched the programme so can't comment on the context of the remark or its delivery, I just read the newslink & thought it was an odd thing for Channel 4 to be so relieved about: "Its OK, he didn't call her a Paki, he called her a cunt" ).

 

[Dubversion]

in fact she called her sub-normal so there wouldn't have been complaints about that cos she's got a point

eh?

 

[Orang Utan]

I bet when Dani and Jade get asked about their possible racism, they look aggrieved and say 'I haven't got a racist bone in my body'

 

[Utopia]

carloe called jacky sub-human, that's probably the nastiest most primitive malicious thing i've seen on bb this year, don't think there were any compliaints received about that, ditto the white trash thing

She was right though......don't you think?

 

[Treacle Toes]

I bet when Dani and Jade get asked about their possible racism, they look aggrieved and say 'I haven't got a racist bone in my body'

Even sadder that they probably actually believe that themselves. Institutionalised racism, covert and effective.

 

[Orang Utan]

So was Jackquieuiy called sub normal or sub human?

 

[Miss Potter]

eh?

carol said that jackiey is "essentially sub-normal", but the term is actually educationally sub-normal, and I think she's got a point

 

[Aravis]

Carole called her sub-normal - I think she was trying to say she was learning-disabled or whatever and it came out a bit unfortunately.