Celebrity Big Brother 2007

[Orang Utan]

You think that's genuine?

Yes - I'm not yet that cynical

 

[Sweaty Betty]

I'm not a 100% but something about it looked forced to me. I've known a few people that can get themselves into that state just by thinking about sad stuff and breathing fast (to hyperventilate which helps make the crying look more real). I'm just cynical enough to think Poor Little Jo...

i didnt watch it all, did she fully blub??? i only saw the rocking back and for mode

 

[Kid_Eternity]

i didnt watch it all, did she fully blub??? i only saw the rocking back and for mode

I watched the whole thing on the YouTube link posted above...just watched it again and finding it really hard to drum up any sympathy for her. It just looks like bollox to me...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

This is quite sad.

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You'd have to be made of stone.

This is it...

 

[exosculate]

This is quite sad.

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You'd have to be made of stone.

That is horrible. This will have fizzled away in a few weeks, why don't endemol look after her properly?

 

[Sweaty Betty]

I watched the whole thing on the YouTube link posted above...just watched it again and finding it really hard to drum up any sympathy for her. It just looks like bollox to me...

Ok, ill try and watch it all, just get a cringe attack half way thru

 

[g force]

Maybe admitting she bullied Shilpa would be a start. Hard to find sympathy for someone who refuses to accept their actions.

 

[exosculate]

Maybe admitting she bullied Shilpa would be a start. Hard to find sympathy for someone who refuses to accept their actions.

I don't like seeing anyone in that state, she looks like she has shell shock.

 

[Errol's son]

She seems to say that the Mirror misquoted her???

Did the NoW misqulote Jade too when she was evicted and spoke to them?

The only reason the Mirror "misquoted" her was because she shows no remorse and was happy to get paid for the interview.

She should show some proper remorse. She seems more concerend about paying her mortgage than how she may have upset Shilpa and everyone else.

 

[Errol's son]

sorry - double post

 

[Structaural]

lol!

the sun in 'we're a bunch of hypocrytical wankers' shocker. no shit?!

Well yeah I can't say it surprised me, but you'd have thought they could hold it down for a couple of weeks on the sports pages after being so 'concerned' about racism lately...

I see something on guardian online about the Sun today Orang Utan:

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/organgrinder/2007/01/the_suns_front_page_insults.html#more

That's their front page?

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Maybe admitting she bullied Shilpa would be a start. Hard to find sympathy for someone who refuses to accept their actions.

well i saw all 3 exits and heard all 3 show remorse verbally for their bullying ways

 

[danny la rouge]

How come Jermaine Jackson gets away with calling Jade * White Trash* thats never picked up is it?

It's been mentioned several times on this thread, and in various tabloid newspapers (the Sun, the Star, the Express, to my knowldge) and on BBC 5 live phone-ins, as well as on BBC Radio Scotland phone-ins.

But, to correct you - he wasn't refering to Jade, he was refering to Jackiey, and he wasn't approving of the term, he was quoting someone (Leo Sayer), he was saying it was a terrible thing to say, and explaining that he liked Jackiey, but that she had her issues to bare. You can watch it over on YouTube (the link was posted on this thread a while back). Context is everything.

And, for the record, I hate the term, have complained about someone using the term on this thread, but actually don't believe it to be racist - it's a class denigration, and is used mainly by white middle class americans of white working class americans.

 

[exosculate]

Danny - what do you make of the Jo youtube video?

 

[danny la rouge]

Danny - what do you make of the Jo youtube video?

I'll need to watch it at home - I haven't got speakers here.

 

[rocketman]

And here's Dirk Benedict's interview this morning on the BBC
He's a perceptive bloke

Here's the linky (hope it's the right one)

 

[exosculate]

And here's Dirk Benedict's interview this morning on the BBC
He's a perceptive bloke

Here's the linky (hope it's the right one)

I think he's right about the shilpa/jo/danielle/jade thing being about class, it did show itself in a mild degree of racism though. Mild racism is commonplace in the UK(and elsewhere), does it have deeply malicious intent generally speaking, no. Should it be challenged, yes.

As for the rest of the interview, he is an amusing chap. I feel for him when he said he had no one intelligent to talk to in there, especially with the more interesting people leaving and Jermaine being too quiet.

 

[exosculate]

I'll need to watch it at home - I haven't got speakers here.

Its very unpleasant, I hope you can watch it later on and tell me what you think.

 

[wishface]

Its very unpleasant, I hope you can watch it later on and tell me what you think.

something about that interview doesn't sit right with me.

Forgive my cynicism but i think there's something about that interview that's staged. A theatrical dig at Endemol?

 

[pk]

This whole thing is well out of proportion now.

My feelings for Jade and her wibbly armed racist mother were made clear right at the start of this thread, but all this media hounding bollocks and death threats is a fucking joke, it's not as if she hammered Shilpa to a burning cross FFS.

Can't wait until Rebekah Wade is the one getting death threats, the fucking hypocrite shitcunt cunt.

 

[Lisarocket]

What annoys me is that Danielle seems to have got away without much criticism of what she said. Even Shilpa said in the Mirror that Danielle was too young and too stupid to understand what she was saying

She's 23 ffs. Just because she's pretty and acts like a little girl doesn't mean that she didn't realise what she was saying. She was worrying about having said something wrong just after Jade left and even more so when Jo left. She knew what she had said.

Some of the worst comments came from Danielle IMO

 

[pk]

Well, I thought the public might have satisfied their need to pour hate onto people with Jade's eviction.

Danielle and Jo didn't say much that was shocking, pretty stupid yes, but not in the realm of BNP territory.
Jade was worst but not because of what she said, because of her incessant fucking mouth not stopping, I'm glad she and her mum fucked it up, and I don't have to hear her bloody whining for a while.

Seems to me to be a case of the Great British Public siding with the posh Indian totty (who handled herself brilliantly given the circumstances, and deserved to win) and rejecting Jade and the other two, to distance themselves from the British examples of failure.

It's a bit like -

"look how much I hate Jade, that means I'm not racist!
And I'm ALLOWED to hate Jade, everyone's doing it!
Hating people is FUN!"

The only thing you could point to in the BB house was bullying, from what I've seen, I pretty much switched it off when the Goody family entered.

And of course it's OK to indulge in bullying three silly naive little girls, now that the Sun says it's OK to do so...

This shit was bound to happen, people are bored of Big Brother, not as interesting unless you can destroy someone, the essence of the programme is cruelty and Endemol have once again done us proud - stick a bunch of exhibitionists in a room with not a lot of food, plenty of booze, and film their every move.

Perhaps Peter Bazalgette should go into the house along with that fucking former smackwhore Davina, lob in Russell Brand and Jade's mum, and that nutjob Shabazz from last series, plus Rebekah Wade - starve them and get them pissed, then selectively edit the footage to make people look worse than they are, see who is the first to come out with a racist comment.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

its been getting far too twee in here lately

 

[pk]

I don't know, I just don't think they deserve the levels of villification, it's become a legitamised hate-fest for the sake of it.

I've always found Jade vile, everything that's wrong with UK, but this latest wave of repulsive attacks on Danielle and Jo just for going along with Jade's bullshit is far darker and insidious than anything they did in that house.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

I don't know, I just don't think they deserve the levels of villification, it's become a legitamised hate-fest for the sake of it.

I've always found Jade vile, everything that's wrong with UK, but this latest wave of repulsive attacks on Danielle and Jo just for going along with Jade's bullshit is far darker and insidious than anything they did in that house.

I agree whole heartedley, just wish my typing was a good as my speaking, plus it been so darn stuffy in here of late.....

 

[pk]

I agree whole heartedley, just wish my typing was a good as my speaking, plus it been so darn stuffy in here of late.....

Has it? I've been busy.

The usual self-righteous bollocks spouted by yoghurt weaving hypocrites, or just the usual people afraid to contravene the majority view?

 

[danny la rouge]

Its very unpleasant, I hope you can watch it later on and tell me what you think.

I've watched it now. And I agree with what Dr Hillary said: this is the bully now being bullied, this is a woman in acute distress, although not experiencing a psychiatric condition (ie her distress is related directly to the situation she is in, and that will pass), and that she needs all the support Channel 4 can give her.

Death threats? Completely out of order. Probably come from the same people who attack "Richard Hillman" in the street.

 

[pk]

Probably come from the same people who attack "Richard Hillman" in the street.

Yup. The same type of bovine person as Jackiey Budden.

Well done Endemol, you fucking wankers.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Has it? I've been busy.

The usual self-righteous bollocks spouted by yoghurt weaving hypocrites, or just the usual people afraid to contravene the majority view?

Fucking both

 

[pk]

Fucking both

Just watched the second half of that O'Meara clip.

Fucking disgusting - Endemol/Channel 4 have a duty of care to that woman, and this is hopefully going to destroy those responsible for putting her into that state.

There's no way she's faking that, she's in utter shock, post-traumatic stress.

Right now my contempt is not for her or Danielle or Jade for that matter, it's for the hidden people who have said nothing and done nothing to resolve this issue - they've just left her out to dry.