Celebrity Big Brother 2007

[exosculate]

Ild like to be the offical last in/out/bin fooker . i think cbb was wrong but it did bring a lot of closet things to life , so maybe we can learn ? (((hopes)))) but can we take it to other threads please ??? cbb was a let down , we all knew shilpa would win , and fairplay to her but its over now , can we leave it alone and not dignify endemol....?



please

riscast!

 

[exosculate]

terrible analogy

but i'll run with it if you want to, firstly give me some examples of this obsession with white working class?

IWCA is still a fairly embroynic organisation, and as such, it's activity so far has been in areas where it's members and supporters actualy live in, issues that arise are issues its members are confronted with day in day out in everyday life,not some fancy starryeyed useless notions of playing at revolution to pass the time of day. if these areas happen to have a higher proportion of white people, than say brixton, so what? should the strategy be to parachute in, lollipop's in hand to areas where they have no connection with and no base (and even no right), just to satisfy a few frightened liberals who think they are racists? they're not the SWP/Respect, so they don't do that, which demonstrates the bankruptcy of your analogy rather well i think



i'd say that says more about your politics than it does about the IWCA to be honest, if you can't tell the difference between a driving principle of working class self organisation without mediation from outside paternalistic trots/liberals, and a politics which has as it's goal the subjugation of the working class, and it's subordination to an ideal based on uniting all classes behind reactionary concepts like the nation, blood & honour, then frankly that's not a problem of the IWCA's

I'm not saying I'm right, I'm saying thats how it feels as a slightly removed casual observer. When reading stuff in the other place.

 

[ruffneck23]

riscast!

 

[The Sick Anchor]

I'm not saying I'm right, I'm saying thats how it feels as a slightly removed casual observer. When reading stuff in the other place.

not sure i understand your last sentence

 

[exosculate]

not sure i understand your last sentence

The board that is your main place of discourse of course.

 

[ZAMB]

For me there is one good memory anyway

 

[bouncer_the_dog]

The samples in polls are generally based on a more or less random selection of the population - whereas voters in the CBB final had to be people who actively sought out the opportunity to vote, and part with their hard-earned to do so, so I don't think their opinions can in any way be generalised to represent the overwhelming majority of the population who didn't give a shit about CBB.

Yes.

 

[The Sick Anchor]

The board that is your main place of discourse of course.

which is a board made up of trots, anarkisseds, scottish & irish nationalists, iwca types, and a heap of other non aligned people, and the only thing you see from that is some kind of white supremicism

i admire your research capabilities

 

[exosculate]

which is a board made up of trots, anarkisseds, scottish & irish nationalists, iwca types, and a heap of other non aligned people, and the only thing you see from that is some kind of white supremicism

i admire your research capabilities

I am aware of who the IWCA people are over there, enough of them anyway.

 

[exosculate]

For me there is one good memory anyway

That is definitely the best bit.

 

[Strumpet]

That is definitely the best bit.

 

[The Sick Anchor]

I am aware of who the IWCA people are over there, enough of them anyway.

but i'll run with it if you want to, firstly give me some examples of this obsession with white working class?

any luck on hunting down these examples of obsession?

i'm assuming you're not just resorting to lazy second analysis and this is something concrete you've seen/witnessed/experienced

and try to bear this in mind whilst doing so

IWCA is still a fairly embroynic organisation, and as such, it's activity so far has been in areas where it's members and supporters actualy live in, issues that arise are issues its members are confronted with day in day out in everyday life,not some fancy starryeyed useless notions of playing at revolution to pass the time of day. if these areas happen to have a higher proportion of white people, than say brixton, so what? should the strategy be to parachute in, lollipop's in hand to areas where they have no connection with and no base (and even no right), just to satisfy a few frightened liberals who think they are racists? they're not the SWP/Respect, so they don't do that, which demonstrates the bankruptcy of your analogy rather well i think

 

[moomoo]

Did anyone see Jo on GMTV this morning? Bloody awful to watch.....

 

[hiphop_lad]

Yes. I think it's way over hyped by the media though, it's stupid. How come Jermaine Jackson gets away with calling Jade * White Trash* thats never picked up is it? it's been blown way out of hand.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Yes. I think it's way over hyped by the media though, it's stupid. How come Jermaine Jackson gets away with calling Jade * White Trash* thats never picked up is it? it's been blown way out of hand.

i agree sort of, but some good has come of it.......shilpa today has said it wasnt black v white it was good v bad, and she tooke her kit off just to tell us so in the red tops

tidy first post .....not!!!

try saying hello....we dont bite

 

[pk]

Yes. I think it's way over hyped by the media though, it's stupid. How come Jermaine Jackson gets away with calling Jade * White Trash* thats never picked up is it? it's been blown way out of hand.

Leo Sayer said it first.

And he was right.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Did anyone see Jo on GMTV this morning? Bloody awful to watch.....

Why what did she say?

 

[rocketman]

Yes. I think it's way over hyped by the media though, it's stupid. How come Jermaine Jackson gets away with calling Jade * White Trash* thats never picked up is it? it's been blown way out of hand.

That's not what actually happened though. The 'White Trash' claim just runs and runs, and was pure bullshit from the start. In addition to which, did you see Jermaine bully anybody?

In any case - if you want my opinion - Jade Goody and crew are white trash, they make me ashamed to be British, not because of their class, but because of their self-inflicted ignorance.

Shilpa to win! Oh..she did...well, that's that then, most of the UK agrees.

 

[rocketman]

This is quite sad.

.

You'd have to be made of stone.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

This is quite sad.

.

You'd have to be made of stone.

Oh god, that presenter... I feel like this is an episode of The Day Today...

 

[Orang Utan]

Oh god, that presenter... I feel like this is an episode of The Day Today...

Indeed - you can't help but feel for her - if she's in that state, how is Danielle? I didn't see her exit interview - how did she cope in it and with the boos?

 

[Structaural]

Bit rich of The Sun to berate Jade for use of Shilpa Popadum and then call the snooker palyer Ding Junhui: 'Pot Noodle' in a subsequent issue. Fucking wankers.

 

[Orang Utan]

Bit rich of The Sun to berate Jade for use of Shilpa Popadum and then call the snooker palyer Ding Junhui: 'Pot Noodle' in a subsequent issue. Fucking wankers.

I know - have you seen their lead story today? Hypocritical bastards

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Bit rich of The Sun to berate Jade for use of Shilpa Popadum and then call the snooker palyer Ding Junhui: 'Pot Noodle' in a subsequent issue. Fucking wankers.

Makes me want to puke...

 

[dolly's gal]

lol!

the sun in 'we're a bunch of hypocrytical wankers' shocker. no shit?!

 

[Sweaty Betty]

That's not what actually happened though. The 'White Trash' claim just runs and runs, and was pure bullshit from the start. In addition to which, did you see Jermaine bully anybody?

In any case - if you want my opinion - Jade Goody and crew are white trash, they make me ashamed to be British, not because of their class, but because of their self-inflicted ignorance.

Shilpa to win! Oh..she did...well, that's that then, most of the UK agrees.

that makes you as bad as the harpies imo......

 

[isvicthere?]

Yes. I think it's way over hyped by the media though, it's stupid. How come Jermaine Jackson gets away with calling Jade * White Trash* thats never picked up is it? it's been blown way out of hand.

Because he didn't. He said that is an unpleasant term he disagrees with. But the sort of person who uses it, might well use it with regard to Jade. Hardly controversial, if you ask me.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Indeed - you can't help but feel for her - if she's in that state, how is Danielle? I didn't see her exit interview - how did she cope in it and with the boos?

You think that's genuine?

 

[Sweaty Betty]

You think that's genuine?

I know what you mean, id say the lack of make up, baring how she spent most of her time putting it on, was staged and how she was dresed,,,,,,to give off that...Whaoa im having a break down mode, to gain sympathy

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I know what you mean, id say the lack of make up, baring how she spent most of her time putting it on, was staged and how she was dresed,,,,,,to give off that...Whaoa im having a break down mode, to gain sympathy

I'm not a 100% but something about it looked forced to me. I've known a few people that can get themselves into that state just by thinking about sad stuff and breathing fast (to hyperventilate which helps make the crying look more real). I'm just cynical enough to think Poor Little Jo...