Cecil, famous Lion from Zimbabwe shot dead by Dentist from Minnesota for $55k

[weltweit]

I think probably at the moment photo tourists to Africa are getting access to the wildlife on the cheap while rich hunters pay relatively a lot more for the rights to shoot an exotic animal.

I expect, for there to be change, photographers are going to have to start paying a lot more!

 

[likesfish]

its a bit shit on all level to shoot giraffes - I can kinda see why some wankers want to kill predators and make themselves feel all powerful - but fucking Giraffes ? they just stand there and eat leaves

Apprantly they are suprisingly hard to see in trees at least one poster on here has a real hate for Giraffes after nearly running one down

 

[Grump]

As a hiker I hate cows as they frequently try to kill you if you walk through their field, admittedly more out of stupidity rather than malice. I did toy with the idea of eating beef as a way of getting revenge but realised it would be counter productive. However, even I wouldn't go out ant hunt them, you need to be a particularly sick and pathetic individual to do that, especially a fucking giraffe, it is like getting a thrill out of running over a kitten.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

My question is, could the precious wildlife earn more money for the local economy from ongoing photo tourism than it can earn from trophy hunting?

That’s like asking if the Zimbabwean sale of diamonds to the Chinese could earn more for ‘the local economy’ if it was done fairer or something.

 

[PaoloSanchez]

I think it partly comes from the packaging of our meat these days. I swear some people don't make the connection between a cheap wrapped and forensically plucked supermarket chicken and the actual creature that provided that meat.

Perhaps it is more fundamental than that, why is cow meat not called cow meat, pig not called pig, deer not called deer etc .. not the source of the words rather the disconnect it causes when someone buys beefburgers in Morrisons and does not realise the cow at the start of the process.

Anyhow cruelty should be banished from the food chain, as much as humanly possible.

I guess the packaging doesn't help, neither does the widespread use of euphemisms however I do think that most people do know that their steaks, burgers, drumsticks and fish fingers were once part of a sentient creature, they'd rather not be reminded so that they don't have to think about it too much.

I agree that cruelty should be banished from the food chain and trophy hunting business and other forms of animal exploitation and that we should leave them alone as much as is practicable. Hopefully as more people are becoming aware of all the negatives associated to our food choices then maybe the tide will turn and we reverse some of the damage that's already been done.

 

[not-bono-ever]

I am sure god said we had full use of his animals for our own ends. He probably didnt anticipate ridding the world of those evil giraffes with hi power rifles for the lolz , from about 3 feet away

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Oh puh-lease.

The wildlife conservation argument is such a pathetic post-rationalisation. If they were really concerned they could just donate the money they spent on killing the giraffe to a wildlife conservation group instead. These cunts couldn't care less about anything other than getting a kick out of killing sentient creatures.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

As a hiker I hate cows as they frequently try to kill you if you walk through their field, admittedly more out of stupidity rather than malice. I did toy with the idea of eating beef as a way of getting revenge but realised it would be counter productive. However, even I wouldn't go out ant hunt them, you need to be a particularly sick and pathetic individual to do that, especially a fucking giraffe, it is like getting a thrill out of running over a kitten.

What kind of cows are these? They've always run away from me. The only ones that don't are bison and I give them a wide berth.

 

[Grump]

All cows, Freisans, Jerseys, whatever, they are malevolent and evil and want to hurt you just because you are in 'their' field. I know there is an argument that they just think whoever is in he field is the farmer come to feed them and they just run over to get fed but I prefer to ascribe sinister motives to the bovine terrorists. Don't know about bison, never met one or been chased by one.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

All cows, Freisans, Jerseys, whatever, they are malevolent and evil and want to hurt you just because you are in 'their' field. I know there is an argument that they just think whoever is in he field is the farmer come to feed them and they just run over to get fed but I prefer to ascribe sinister motives to the bovine terrorists. Don't know about bison, never met one or been chased by one.

Pigs are far more likely to harbor sinister motives:

Toddler is mauled to death and EATEN by a pig after crawling into its pen and the animal 'acted to protect its new litter' in China | Daily Mail Online

Oregon farmer eaten by his pigs

 

[Grump]

S African 'rhino poachers' eaten by lions

Great news and the quote of the year, " we don't know how many there were (poachers) there isn't much left of them".

 

[petee]

S African 'rhino poachers' eaten by lions

now that's solidarity.

 

[gentlegreen]

Somewhat closer to home...

US huntress facing Scottish firearm charges for shooting ‘farm animals’

 

[wiskey]

Good

 

[8ball]

Somewhat closer to home...

US huntress facing Scottish firearm charges for shooting ‘farm animals’

It doesn't seem to say anything about farm animals anywhere but in the headline.

 

[Mrs Miggins]

I am annoyed at the use of the word "huntress"

 

[gentlegreen]

It doesn't seem to say anything about farm animals anywhere but in the headline.

Yes, I suppose if they were domesticated that would tend to make her even more pathetic.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

It occurs to me that we could use some of the UK's hunt sabs:

187 wolves have been harvested in Montana! Excellent work, wolf hunters and trappers! Around this time last year, wolf hunters and trappers had harvested 159 wolves total (as of 1.We are nearing 200 wolves for the season so far! It is not easy to hunt and/or trap wolves (for most–Dan Helterline and his daughter, Alexis, are the exceptions! :-D), so you deserve a big ‘ol pat on the back! Thank you for helping to manage wolves in Montana!

Montana Wolf Harvest Update 1.11.19

 

[8ball]

It occurs to me that we could use some of the UK's hunt sabs:
Montana Wolf Harvest Update 1.11.19

That's the first time I've seen the term "harvesting" applied to wolves.

Is this pest control of some kind?

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

That's the first time I've seen the term "harvesting" applied to wolves.

Is this pest control of some kind?

It depends on who you ask.

Montana ranchers want to kill them all--every single wolf. They see them as a threat to livestock and as potential threats to people. There's little evidence to support that view.

Conservationists see them as part of a process of renewing the landscape in and around Yellowstone. A lot of natives plants were dying off because the elk would eat everything down to the ground. Reintroducing the wolves keeps the elk moving around and gives the plants a chance to grow back.

 

[hash tag]

Shooting an animal in the wild has to be more humane than the suffering of the millions of battery farmed chickens etc.

 

[8ball]

It depends on who you ask. Montana rancher want to kill them all--every single wolf. They see them as a threat to livestock and as potential threats to people. There's little evidence to support that.

Conservationists see them as part of a process of renewing the landscape in and around Yellowstone. A lot of natives plants were dying off because the elk would eat everything down to the ground. Reintroducing the wolves keeps the elk moving around and gives the plants a chance to grow back.

Ah, a bit like us with the badgers, then.

I Googled "wolf harvester" and got this:

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Shooting an animal in the wild has to be more humane than the suffering of the millions of battery farmed chickens etc.

Yes, but chickens are in no danger of going extinct. Some of the animals being hunted are being hunted at higher than replacement rates for the species.

 

[hash tag]

I was particularly referring to the Scotland article. I guess it all depends on where your priorities lie IE the suffering of millions of factory produced animals or the killing of an animal in the endangered list.
Speaking of which, I see whales are back in the news, because the Japanese are going full on whale hunting again.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

And then there's this:

“After more than 250 years a wild bison had been spotted again in Germany and all the authorities could think to do is shoot it.”

A man had spotted the European bison next to the river Oder near the town of Lebus on Wednesday and alerted the authorities, according to police.

The head of the local public order office decided that the bison needed to be killed in order to protect the population and instructed two local hunters to kill the beast on Thursday.

According to Polish authorities, the animal was probably a bull which had been running around the Ujście Warty National Park on the German-Polish border for some time before wandering into the Bundesrepublik.

The European bison is Europe’s largest land mammal and has not been seen in the wild in Germany for over 250 years. They are considered “vulnerable” by conservation bodies internationally and are on the list of Germany’s “strongly protected animals”.

Germany’s 'first wild bison in 250 years’ shot by authorities

Behind this is actually some good news, there's now about 500 of them in the wild after being reintroduced in Poland.

 

[sim667]

Ah, a bit like us with the badgers, then.

I Googled "wolf harvester" and got this:

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I'm pretty sure thats a gold wash plant

(Not that I religiously watch gold miners on discovery or anything).

 

[8ball]

I'm pretty sure thats a gold wash plant

(Not that I religiously watch gold miners on discovery or anything).

I don't know what that is either.

But if you Google "wolf harvester" there's a whole bunch of them.

I think the one above is something to do with harvesting hops for beer - here's another one, and a bit on how they work. Maybe there are similar processes involved with part of the gold mining process.

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Somewhat closer to home...

US huntress facing Scottish firearm charges for shooting ‘farm animals’

What a dumb, worthless cunt.

 

[hash tag]

One or two farm animals killed or millions of factory farm chickens; you pays yer money https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/mcdonalds-mcnuggets-chicken-welfare-campaign/

"982 million chickens are killed in the UK each year – McDonald’s must stop breeding them so fast that their organs fail"

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

WASHINGTON —

Photos and video taken by animal welfare activists at a recent trophy hunting convention show an array of products crafted from the body parts of threatened big-game animals, including boots, chaps, belts and furniture labeled as elephant leather.

Vendors at the Safari Club International event last week in Reno, Nevada, also were recorded hawking African vacations to shoot captive-bred lions raised in pens. The club has previously said it wouldn’t allow the sale of so-called canned hunts at its events....

“Making money off the opportunity to kill these animals for bragging rights is something that most people around the world find appalling,” said Kitty Block, acting president and CEO of the Humane Society of the United States. “It’s an elitist hobby of the 1 percent, and there is no place for trophy hunting in today’s world.”

The wares included oil paintings of big-game animals painted on stretched elephant skins, bracelets woven from elephant hair and an elephant leather bench. There was also a coffee table made from the skull of a hippopotamus and boxes filled with hippo teeth.

Under a state law, it is illegal in Nevada to purchase, sell or possess with intent to sell any item that contains the body parts of elephant, lion, rhinoceros, tiger, leopard, hippopotamus and other imperiled wildlife.

Safari Club Event Vendors Sold Products Made From Threatened Wildlife