Cardiff City RedBlueDragonBirds 2012-2013 season

[1927]

a mate who went was intending to wave his red scarf

for a chance of a free season ticket, no other reason
wonder how many of people felt the same

Not many.was sat next to a guy last night who has been watching city for over 60 years, he was with his grandson who was about 8, like he said to me, do yoiu think his grandson cares what colour we play in if we get to the Prem, the old boy didnt give a shit about the colour change either.

 

[1927]

Like Tony Blair coming from a different class, pushing to ditch clause four, moving from a red flag to a red rose and changing it to 'New Labour'.

I think that pretty much nails the argument to be honest!

 

[editor]

Yeah. It's all about SUCCESS at any cost! If Mr Tan wants us to dance naked with a rose up our arses, hell, let's all do it if it gets us into the PREMIERSHIP because unless we're in the Premiership then we're NOTHING.

 

[1927]

Yeah. It's all about SUCCESS at any cost! If Mr Tan wants us to dance naked with a rose up our arses, hell, let's all do it if it gets us into the PREMIERSHIP because unless we're in the Premiership then we're NOTHING.

But what do you think people go for if its not success?

 

[editor]

But what do you think people go for if its not success?

For the football, for the community, because it's your team and you want to support your team through thick and thin?

 

[1927]

For the football, for the community, because it's your team and you want to support your team through thick and thin?

That is fucking hilarious.For a man who says he has such a knowledge of the tradition and history of Cardiff City you seem to have forgotten the fact that Cardiff fans are the most fickle supporters in the football league. The people of Cardiff have only ever been impressed by success.

 

[RaverDrew]

was sat next to a guy last night who has been watching city for over 60 years...

 

[1927]

RaverDrew Just remind me who you support!

 

[1927]

Misquoting Cameron now! If you read what heactually said it was " I met a black man the other day, he was a Cardiff City season ticket holder, and he didnt give a flying fuck about the colour change, like most of them"

 

[Gromit]

Nick Hornby thinks people support football for the misery. They love the misery.

In fairness some people do.

Reassuringly to me is that clubs with the highest attendance are, more often than not, the clubs where the results, more often than not, bring joy. Success brings more joy than failure.

Most people aren't in it for the misery. Wish I could have said the same during the miserable years. Well I lived them and I want my joyous years now please. I've earned them.

 

[1927]

Nick Hornby thinks people support football for the misery. They love the misery.

In fairness some people do.

Reassuringly to me is that clubs with the highest attendance are, more often than not, the clubs where the results, more often than not, bring joy. Success brings more joy than failure.

Most people aren't in it for the misery. Wish I could have said the same during the miserable years. Well I lived them and I want my joyous years now please. I've earned them.

I think a lot of people feel that way, talking to people last night and someone said if he had been asked 6 years ago if he would swap blue for red for 4 wembley visits, season at the top of the table and a realchance of the premiership he'd have biutten your hand off. this is the opinion of just about everybody i have talked to about it.

 

[RaverDrew]

RaverDrew Just remind me who you support!

A club owned by supporters, not some megalomaniac Asian businessman who has no ties to the club, and is in it purely for the money.

 

[1927]

A club owned by supporters, not some megalomaniac Asian businessman who has no ties to the club, and is in it purely for the money.

Which club is it?

 

[editor]

I think a lot of people feel that way, talking to people last night and someone said if he had been asked 6 years ago if he would swap blue for red for 4 wembley visits, season at the top of the table and a realchance of the premiership he'd have biutten your hand off. this is the opinion of just about everybody i have talked to about it.

Umm, we got the four Wembley visits while playing in blue.

 

[ddraig]

are you on the board now 1927?

 

[Clint Iguana]

I think that pretty much nails the argument to be honest!

And i stopped voting for Labour and cancelled my contribution to my unions labour affiliation fund - cos they no longer represented what i want from a political party

 

[editor]

And i stopped voting for Labour and cancelled my contribution to my unions labour affiliation fund - cos they no longer represented what i want from a political party

And Labour ended up losing thousands of votes and were booted out of power.

Great analogy guys!

 

[phildwyer]

He reffed the final by default other refs were turned down by the finalists because of football politics, it is said he kicked up a fuss that they did not have the correct German flag to fly for him at the final but as luck would have it Glockner had his own German flag with him that he had happened to take all the way to Central America {East German flag- apparently a proud Saxon, Prussian type}.


When it came to the Wales-Yugoslavia match it is said that he insisted on having his own national anthem played not just the two countries anthem but his as well, he gave every decision going to the team that would host the finals, the ref seemed to have it in for Wales, was it because we were on the winning side in the war ?, was it because we are sporting rivals of the English and the Germans and English are very friendly when it comes to sport, lots of football fans thought the English and Germans collaborated to get their teams into the 66 world cup final, what did the South Americans call it ''the robbery of the century'' wasn't it !,

They were quite right about that, but that's no reflection on Wales, as Glockner would have known.

What you say about the flags and the anthems confirms the rumors at the time, which were that he was in fact not a nationalist but a committed Communist, and had favored the Yugoslavs out of a combination of East Bloc solidarity and outrage at having "Sieg Heil" and other Nazi slurs shouted at him by Welsh fans.

I suppose only Party loyalists would have been given the kind of opportunities he had. But this argument ignores the fact that Yugoslavia wasn't in the East Bloc.

Anyway it was a bit of a culture shock when the proletarian vanguard of the DDR met the real-life proles of South Wales.

I have to say you're a bit optimistic about our prospects anyway. It's true that this was the best Welsh team of all time (Yorath, Mahoney, James, Toshack, Flynn etc), but we'd have had to win by 2 goals, and the Yugoslavs were clearly the better team, ref or no ref.

They got the wrong guy for stabbing the copper, iirc. It was a very exciting riot, rivalled only by Man U in '74...

 

[phildwyer]

But yet again fortune did not smile on Wales who would have won the 34 World cup if we had entered, Wales would have won the 58 world cup if the best player in the world at the time in John Charles had not been brutally kicked out of competition by the Hungarians

Don't forget '38, we'd definitely have won in '38 if we'd entered, as the rest of the world were utter crap at the time. In which case, given your point above, we'd have become the first nation to win the Jules Rimet Trophy three times in 1958, thus retaining it outright.

 

[g force]

For the football, for the community, because it's your team and you want to support your team through thick and thin?

This. In the good times, you celebrate together in the bad times, you laugh it off, curse it all but keep loving your team. If you're lucky you get to watch some decent footy too maybe win some stuff in the good times.

But winning at all costs? Portsmouth have already shown that's not a road to go down.

 

[Gromit]

are you on the board now 1927?

Are you a Jack now?

 

[ddraig]

Are you a Jack now?

pardon?
why would you think that?
is it red or nothing? weird

 

[Gromit]

Just applying your own style of posting back at you. No points made just queries that imply bias at the person addressed in an insulting way.

The board support red branding, You support red branding. So you must be on the board now.
Many Jacks have had a pop at Cardiff for going red. You are having a pop so you must be a jack.

 

[ddraig]

Just applying your own style of posting back at you. No points made just queries that imply bias at the person addressed in an insulting way.

The board support red branding, You support red branding. So you must be on the board now.
Many Jacks have had a pop at Cardiff for going red. You are having a pop so you must be a jack.

strange logic you have there, you've had this pointed out to you on loads of threads

how is it insulting to a super fan to ask if they are on the board?

 

[editor]

Compare all this infighting to the chat we used to have here a few years ago. All of us used to be rooting for the City any arguments were minor ones over team selection and managers. Now look at us.

Fuck. Vincent. Tan.

 

[1927]

I notice I have received no reply to my comment about Cardiff fans being fickle or from the palarse fan. Palarse have changed their kits more times than I care to remember, changed the club crest 9 times (go on count them) they even changed their nickname on the whim of a manager. They entered admin twice fucking over loads of local traders and their supporters dare to have a pop at me. If there is a club that can teach the rest of the league about morals, ethics and the way to behave as a football club, palarse is not that club.

 

[1927]

I've never known a season where fans don't disagree with fans.
About:
the owner,
the manager,
the players,
the formation,
the best pre-match pub,
mascots,
goal music,
drums,
racism,
the refereeing,
transfers,
team selection,
who deserves away tickets,
The home kit
The away kit
The 3rd kit
The 4th kit

Football IS fans disagreeing with each other. Tan didn't invent that.

Evidently, according to a fan on the radio on monday, police had to seperate Arsenal fans fighting amongst themselves at the weekend. fighting over their opinions on Wenger!

 

[RaverDrew]

I notice I have received no reply to my comment about Cardiff fans being fickle or from the palarse fan. Palarse have changed their kits more times than I care to remember, changed the club crest 9 times (go on count them) they even changed their nickname on the whim of a manager. They entered admin twice fucking over loads of local traders and their supporters dare to have a pop at me. If there is a club that can teach the rest of the league about morals, ethics and the way to behave as a football club, palarse is not that club.

I'll take that as a bite

 

[Threshers_Flail]

Compare all this infighting to the chat we used to have here a few years ago. All of us used to be rooting for the City any arguments were minor ones over team selection and managers. Now look at us.

Fuck. Vincent. Tan.

Nail on head.

 

[1927]

I'll take that as a bite

take it as a lesson not to criticise others when your own club is a fucking disgrace!