Cardiff City 2008-09

[Clint Iguana]

It would appear that there are a lot of people pissed off with arrangements for the new stadium.

Some people are claiming they are concerned that the family area is going to be next to the away end and they are concerned that away fans will attack families. I am not sure that would be the case and i think it is a bit of a smokescreen.

Those that currently have season tickets in the grange end are being moved to the opposite end of the stadium from the away fans. This is inevetably going to reduce the atmospher in the ground and is, for me, sad.

Now you could argue that season ticket holders in the grange end and the lower grandstand (grange end end) could just get buy tickets near the away fans instead. Well if i am reading things right, that is not going to be possible. Wayne Nash, head groundsman, has stated at a public meeting that those that stand in the grange end and A block of the lower grandstand are all anti social and not the type of people they want to attract to the new stadium. He has even stated that they can manage without our money!

I was not at that meeting but you can pick up on some of it from the valley rams message board

There is another view of that meeting on mike morris' message board.

no doubt a report will apear shortly on the supporters trust website

 

[Gromit]

TBH when we talk about a small percentage who let the club down with their piss poor hooligan behaviour... guess which parts of the ground they currently prefer.

Not that everyone in those sections is scum, but it is where the scum head for.

I don't think Wayne can be critised too much for saying good riddance to bad rubbish. Those who aren't scum shouldn't take it too hard that they'll have to pick somewhere away from the away fans.

After all the phrase is Support the boys and make some noise. Not Slag off the visitors, make some noise.

 

[Clint Iguana]

TBH when we talk about a small percentage who let the club down with their piss poor hooligan behaviour... guess which parts of the ground they currently prefer.

Not that everyone in those sections is scum, but it is where the scum head for.

I don't think Wayne can be critised too much for saying good riddance to bad rubbish. Those who aren't scum shouldn't take it too hard that they'll have to pick somewhere away from the away fans.

After all the phrase is Support the boys and make some noise. Not Slag off the visitors, make some noise.

As somone that stands in the grange end myself, i take as a personal insult. I am not interested in violence at all, it just so happens that the grange end is where the best atmosphere is. I often read managers, players and fans of away teams comment on what an intense atmosphere there is at ninian park, that aint down to the canton stand! If there were no banter betwen the opposing fans football would become half the spectacle it is now. the all seating is going to reduce the atmosphere now this nonsense is going to turn the place into a library.

Yes, many fans chose to sit/stand near the away fans for the wrong reason, but by the same token many choose to sit as far as they can away from the away fans for the opposite reason.... they are not going to be too happy about being shoved next to the away fans now.

I wont be renewing my season ticket this year.

 

[Gromit]

Deny that the intense atmosphere you like without violence is also the very same atmosphere the hooligans favour.
Then deny that we would not be better off without the hooligans.

Go on I dare you.

 

[Clint Iguana]

Deny that the intense atmosphere you like without violence is also the very same atmosphere the hooligans favour.
Then deny that we would not be better off without the hooligans.

Go on I dare you.

I think you will find that almost everyone favours the intense atmosphere. As for violence, when was the last time there was any violence in Ninian Park? The only time there is agro in the ground is when away fans like wolves or birmingham start ripping up seats and fighting with the old bill. Sloper Road and the dark alleys around the city are the chosen venue for those that are genuinely intent on violence.

Yes, ninian park would be better without hooligans, but given the small number of hooligans we have, it wont make much difference. Taring everyone that stands in the grange end with the same brush is simplistic and not very business like. nash needs to remember who pays his wages

 

[Gromit]

I think you will find that almost everyone favours the intense atmosphere.

You've never been in the Grandstand then? Where large sections of people will scowl at you for being too vocal.

Not that I'm endorse that end of the scale either. Rather somewhere inbetween where you get an atmos but it isn't one with such venom.

 

[Clint Iguana]

You've never been in the Grandstand then? Where large sections of people will scowl at you for being too vocal.

Not that I'm endorse that end of the scale either. Rather somewhere inbetween where you get an atmos but it isn't one with such venom.

Yes, i have sat in the grandstand, but certainly never heard anyone complain about too much singing ... biggest moan i have heard up there is reserved for people coming in after kick off or getting up for a piss (Outrageous!).

 

[1927]

I am not and never have been a hooilgan, and wouldnt be any good at being one of I tried. I must admit however that in the past I have hung around with boys who were very close to, and on rare occassions partook of the od bit of violence. I will not deny that being on the edge of that whole scene is an amazing buzz, I've been caught up in trouble, most notably while on my own and chased by about 250 Stoke when lost in Port Vale on a cold wednesday night, and its all part of the whole football experience. Whilst not condoning violence or wanting to see it at Ninian Park the threat that something might happen and the cat and mouse games with the police produce an atmosphere that can't be beat. If we lose that totally then football will be like the homogenous offerings on the high street where everything looks and feels the same and you could be anywhere in the country. That edge is what makes Ninain Park what it is, we are not Arsenal and I dont want to watch my football in a library.

 

[editor]

I love vocal intimidation, boisterousness, banter, piss taking and an air of boozed-up testosterone at my football. Hate violence though (unless it's one bunch of moronic Charlies beating up another bunch of fuckwits miles away from the ground and no one else).

 

[1927]

I love vocal intimidation, boisterousness, banter, piss taking and an air of boozed-up testosterone at my football. Hate violence though (unless it's one bunch of moronic Charlies beating up another bunch of fuckwits miles away from the ground and no one else).

Thats excatly what I was trying to say.I like that, you say in about ten words what it took me half a page to describe.

 

[editor]

Cardiff 2 Preston 0.

Result!!!

 

[ddraig]

back in the zone

 

[Clint Iguana]

Cardiff 2 Preston 0.

Result!!!

"Never felt more like singing the score, when cardiff win and swansea draw"

 

[1927]

Got scammed outside the ground. A guy was offering badges at 3 for a £1. I shell my pound and get my three badges, all the same and it was dark.

Then I get home an look at them.

Anyone wanna buy a 2008 Cardiff City FA Cup winners badge!!!!

 

[Clint Iguana]

Got scammed outside the ground. A guy was offering badges at 3 for a £1. I shell my pound and get my three badges, all the same and it was dark.

Then I get home an look at them.

Anyone wanna buy a 2008 Cardiff City FA Cup winners badge!!!!

if it is the guy i think it is, he is also a ticket tout.

 

[Gromit]

So for three or four years a couple and their grown up daughter have sat behind me at the footy.

Over the years they've looked after left behind umbrellas for me, brought me stuff back from abroad, swapped sweeties back and fore.

We are moving to a new stadium next year.
We don't want to lose touch so have swapped numbers to arrange seats near to each other.
And so I finally found out the guy's name yesterday after all these years.

Its Keith.

Two mates sit elsewhere. They don't want to lose contact with the guy who has sat next to them for 6 years. They didn't know his name either.

Its Keith.

We had a good laugh when we discussed this after the match. So it seems people you are friends with but don't know their name are all called Keith.

 

[Clint Iguana]

So it seems people you are friends with but don't know their name are all called Keith.

I just tested this out by asking a friend i met last night, but never got around to names, if thier name was kieth. She smacked me in the face and kicked me out of bed.

 

[Gromit]

I just tested this out by asking a friend i met last night, but never got around to names, if thier name was kieth. She smacked me in the face and kicked me out of bed.

She's probably touchy about it.

 

[1927]

I told ya all we should never have let Thommo go!!

 

[Gromit]

Come back to haunt us. I didn't think he was going to play today

But power to him, I'd want to rub a goal in Dave Jones' face too if he'd treated me as he had Thommo.

 

[milly]

Thompson was overated when at city in imho.

 

[rapattaque]

Excellent game last night if a little cold. We really should have won though, Thommo's goal was an absolute gift when it came down to it.

 

[editor]

Excellent game last night if a little cold. We really should have won though, Thommo's goal was an absolute gift when it came down to it.

Burnley's manager was certainly impressed:

"I felt Cardiff looked a good side and that we scored against the run of play. I have no doubt they will be in the shake up at the end of the season. Cardiff are packed with quality"

 

[Clint Iguana]

Thompson was overated when at city in imho.

Yes, him and james fox

 

[1927]

Thompson was overated when at city in imho.

Ok so he may not have scored many goals, but imho he was a great motivator in the dressing room, and you cant buy that.In the preseason games he looked good with McCormack and I think its a pity he didnt get a chance to play regularly with him, and now we have Chopra too it would have been like the old times when they ruled!

Thommo will always be a Cardiff player at heart!

 

[marksims68]

Any bluebirds coming to Portman Road on Saturday? I'm an Ipswich fan and will be going for sure, I'll give a report on what happens if you like!!!

At the time of writing Ipswich are beating Bristol City 3-1, so Saturday should be a good game indeed!

Hopefully see a few of you there!

Mark (ITFC forever)

 

[Gromit]

I enjoyed your hospitality last year. I have other commitments this weekend though.

 

[rapattaque]

Burnley's manager was certainly impressed:

First 20 minutes of the second half we played some of the best stuff i've seen anyone play live all season. It's just a shame we couldn't/can't do it for 90. Routledge and Bothroyd are definately in the wrong division.

 

[Gromit]

Routledge has to be the fastest thing I've seen at Ninian Park discounting dive bombing seagulls.

He keeps chasing balls that are so far ahead of him I think hah he'll never reach that before it goes out if play. Then he makes it and keeps the ball in and I'm like wha?

 

[Clint Iguana]

Ledley staying for rest of season (?) Are we going to have top let him go for nothing when his contract is up? Will there be money to keep Routlidge and Chopra? Is this another classic fuck up in the making?