Canterbury Arms, Brixton to be turned into flats - planning application

[ViolentPanda]

Sounds like Lambeth are being disingenuous about their motives then. But the fact remains that the council has had its funding cut by around a third, and getting new homes built (as national planning policy is supposed to dictate) actually provides them with possibly the only mechanism to accessing extra Government funding. Something's got to give

Which sounds a bit like "bend over and take one for the borough, Cressingham Gardens".

 

[Tricky Skills]

If you assume that income and affluence has a correlation with voting behaviour (and that's a big IF...) then this FoI might be worth following.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Received attached letter from Lambeth Planning

 

[Maggot]

I got that too. So there is gonna be a pub in the new development. It will be shite.

 

[clandestino]

I got that too. So there is gonna be a pub in the new development. It will be shite.

There is? I missed that. What section of the letter mentions that?

 

[editor]

It's gone for good.
http://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2014/05/...n-to-demolish-the-canterbury-arms-in-brixton/

 

[editor]

There is? I missed that. What section of the letter mentions that?

This bit

Demolition of the existing Public House and redevelopment to provide a mixed use development compromising 31 residential dwellings (Use Class C3), 162sqm of Public House/Restaurant (use class A4/A3) in a 9 storey building including the provision of a communal garden and 42 cycle parking spaces

I won't be holding my breath on that pub ever arriving.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

I suspect it'll get lost in the developing design concept....somewhere after planning is agreed and work has begun...

 

[Tufty]

It's one of the clever reasons they pushed the application through - you can't object to the loss of a pub if they build another. Of course, they'll probably apply to turn it into something else once its built anyway. And if they don't, yes, it will be shite.

 

[editor]

There's no chance of anything that would be identifiable as a normal pub appearing on that site. If there was, I reckon the the nu-residents would be pre-emptively lodging their noise complaints now.

 

[shygirl]

I was speaking to Brian last week, he said that the glass, fittings etc will be sold by the developer, not trashed. I certainly hope so, cos it would be criminal to smash it all up. The tiling is fab too, wonder if they will remove it rather than break it up.

 

[Tufty]

The developer said at the planning meeting that the fittings would be offered free to interested parties. However, it would be very costly for said interested party to remove them. I don't know whether there has been a deal. Did Bill say something firm?

I'd like to add that, from my point of view, rescuing the fixtures and fittings would only be making the mess of a bad sitution. I personally think they, and the pub, should stay in Brixton.

 

[Manter]

I was speaking to Brian last week, he said that the glass, fittings etc will be sold by the developer, not trashed. I certainly hope so, cos it would be criminal to smash it all up. The tiling is fab too, wonder if they will remove it rather than break it up.

Reclaim places can make a lot of money out of old pub fixtures. For example those etched glass panels and mirrors with 'beer' on them go for hundreds of pounds. The developers would be daft not to sell it.

 

[twistedAM]

Reclaim places can make a lot of money out of old pub fixtures. For example those etched glass panels and mirrors with 'beer' on them go for hundreds of pounds. The developers would be daft not to sell it.

Not beer-related but there's an old Brooke Bond Tea sign in the junk shop (sic) on Brixton Hill pop NISA with a £220 price tag.

 

[Dexter Deadwood]

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[Dexter Deadwood]

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[Nanker Phelge]

poetry is finally dead

 

[CH1]

poetry is finally dead

Try this then. It's amazing what difference a name makes.

 

[leanderman]

Not beer-related but there's an old Brooke Bond Tea sign in the junk shop (sic) on Brixton Hill pop NISA with a £220 price tag.

costly place that

 

[editor]

I've written a review of the pub. Hopefully it'll be around for a while longer.

http://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2014/09/the-canterbury-arms-8-canterbury-crescent-brixton-pub-review/

 

[SpamMisery]

"historic pub interior of regional importance"? Really?

Anyway, is that second photo your own?

 

[editor]

"historic pub interior of regional importance"? Really?

Anyway, is that second photo your own?

Yes, really. It is a remarkably unspoilt late Victorian interior with high quality cut and etched glass, wonderful wood carvings, and a stunning glazed-in office.

And, yes it is my photo. Why do you ask?

 

[Mr Retro]

That's a cracking review in my opinion and hits the nail on the head about how much it will be missed in the community.

One of my very favorite things to do is to have a few pints in there on a Saturday as the results came in on the tv and most if the locals would be there too chatting and taking the piss. At the risk of continually repeating myself I'm totally gutted that as we move back to Brixton it will be closing.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Still there for now....and looks like it will be til xmas at least...

 

[peterkro]

My experience of the Canterbury goes back to the late seventies and eighties when there were two bars at the front (part of the original fittings,don't know when the divide went).For a number of years its clientele was the few older drinkers,squatters and the filth.It was the scene of some great benefit gigs for amongst others the miners and the firefighters.I've walked in there more than once smoking a joint before being told "put that fucking thing out" by the head of Brixton drug squad (he was called the "Killer" or the "Gorilla" at this distance I don't remember),before playing a game of pool with him).Sean was the publican there for some time before he went to the White horse.
There is a great story about one of the Villa road squatters lifting a police briefcase from there and its return,it had a fucking pistol in it,cue everyone freaking out,squatters "they already think we are fucking revolutionaries" police "what sort of cunt leaves a gun in a briefcase we'll all be sacked if this gets out".It eventually made its way back to its owner (RIP John you mad cunt).
The New Queens was my local around then but I spent a lot of time in the Canterbury as well as Bradys.
Sad to see another part of Brixton about to go.

 

[SpamMisery]

Yes, really. It is a remarkably unspoilt late Victorian interior with high quality cut and etched glass, wonderful wood carvings, and a stunning glazed-in office.

And, yes it is my photo. Why do you ask?

I thought it looked like the inside of a British Legion but in its defence the last time I went in I was fairly plastered and the time before that was 10 years ago (and I was also fairly plastered).

And the photo had turned up in Google image search for what seemed like ages so I assumed it was fairly old. Just didn't think you'd taken it for some reason

 

[editor]

I thought it looked like the inside of a British Legion but in its defence the last time I went in I was fairly plastered and the time before that was 10 years ago (and I was also fairly plastered).

And the photo had turned up in Google image search for what seemed like ages so I assumed it was fairly old. Just didn't think you'd taken it for some reason

Can you really not see that its interior is of architectural merit?

 

[SpamMisery]

Yes, that bit looks nice. The bit to the right by the toilets looked like a British Legion after a few pints.

 

[SpamMisery]

Talking of pub partitions, I had a few pints in here the other night

Princess Louise in Holborn. Well worth a visit if you're in the area

 

[Winot]

Also in that area is the Lamb on Lamb's Conduit St. which has snob screens.