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Calais people to people solidarity: action from the UK

Just in case anyone else is in a situation similar to mine, Care4Calais is now a registered charity and any UK business can decide to donate whatever it likes and this is written off against tax.

If you are in that position, check with your accountant first, I am not a tax adviser and our accountant done 4 years for fraud...
 
Eviction looking likely on the 24th maybe? This'll make Dale Farm look like a fucking picnic.

Also rumours of a new French plod weapon that uses a laser to temporary blind, before taking a slug?
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
Just in case anyone else is in a situation similar to mine, Care4Calais is now a registered charity and any UK business can decide to donate whatever it likes and this is written off against tax.

If you are in that position, check with your accountant first, I am not a tax adviser and our accountant done 4 years for fraud...
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Calais Action, HelpRefugees, the phone credit group all also charities.

....but you can only write charity donations off against tax in the UK if they are linked to your business.
 
Mr.Bishie said:
Eviction looking likely on the 24th maybe? This'll make Dale Farm look like a fucking picnic.

Also rumours of a new French plod weapon that uses a laser to temporary blind, before taking a slug?
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Numbers are already coming right down. About 2k people have left in the last few weeks.
 
By the way refugees are thriving in Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan is a very large country with a very low population density. See this:
 
Matchbox said:
By the way refugees are thriving in Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan is a very large country with a very low population density. See this:
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It's interesting that you don't mention - possibly because you're unaware - that most of the Central Asian states - Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan,- Tajikistan and Khyrgyzstan - all have their own problems with regard to Islamist insurgencies and government by dictatorship, as well as sharing no common language but the language of prayer, with the refugees. Expecting Muslim refugees to go en masse is idiocy.
 
Manter said:
Calais Action, HelpRefugees, the phone credit group all also charities.

....but you can only write charity donations off against tax in the UK if they are linked to your business.
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Our link is that we donate, that seems to be enough. I fucking hope so or else there will be a tax bill that is nasty to pay!




Fuck that though, hoping people stay safe tomorrow and that those left behind can be cared for. Good luck people.
 
While I am all for helping refugees Europe simply does not have the resources to handle the vast influx of refugees now arriving. And by the way since 1990 700,000 asylum seekers have already been admitted to the UK. I read that somewhere, I can't remember where though. There are many other countries much closer to the war zones in Africa and Syria where refugees could settle. What about Madagascar for example? If Europe continues to allow such a vast influx of refugees then it will only create racial tensions in European countries and overstretch public services. People also do not realise that most refugees arrive in Europe due to people smuggling criminal gangs. The people smuggling gangs who exploit refugees need to be tackled.
 
Matchbox said:
While I am all for helping refugees Europe simply does not have the resources to handle the vast influx of refugees now arriving. And by the way since 1990 700,000 asylum seekers have already been admitted to the UK. I read that somewhere, I can't remember where though. There are many other countries much closer to the war zones in Africa and Syria where refugees could settle. What about Madagascar for example? If Europe continues to allow such a vast influx of refugees then it will only create racial tensions in European countries and overstretch public services. People also do not realise that most refugees arrive in Europe due to people smuggling criminal gangs. The people smuggling gangs who exploit refugees need to be tackled.
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From a million mask march to the 'final solution' of Madagascar in a few days. Well done.
 
ska invita This is the group I was referring to as a good place for the collection you mentioned to me yesterday.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1709109339334305/

This update from today gives you an idea of their great efforts. :)

‎Jape JP‎ to Phone credit for refugees and displaced people
2 mins ·
Counting all top ups from the end of last month onwards (on the basis that credit lasts 30 days) we have topped up more than 1900 people in time for today's eviction including 697 children. We are still working through huge lists of requests and hope to make these numbers much larger during the next few days.
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butchersapron said:
From a million mask march to the 'final solution' of Madagascar in a few days. Well done.
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Why is it that when anyone at all says that Europe has taken in its fair share of refugees and does not have the room or the resources to cope with any more then many people think they are being racist? No wonder there has been a massive racist backlash against refugees across Europe! And don't you know that when leftists keep shouting; "No borders!" All they do is put working class people off the left and drive them into the arms of UKIP and other nationalist parties! No one is saying that no refugees or migrants at all should be allowed to enter Europe, but that the numbers need to be controlled! Meanwhile the left will continue to lose more and more support for the working class as they keep insisting in open borders and the scrapping of all immigration controls. No wonder Jeremy Corbyn who I used to admire is a long way behind Therea May in the polls. The left is shooting itself in the foot over its ultra liberal attitude to migration.
 
Matchbox said:
Why is it that when anyone at all says that Europe has taken in its fair share of refugees and does not have the room or the resources to cope with any more then many people think they are being racist? No wonder there has been a massive racist backlash against refugees across Europe! And don't you know that when leftists keep shouting; "No borders!" All they do is put working class people off the left and drive them into the arms of UKIP and other nationalist parties! No one is saying that no refugees or migrants at all should be allowed to enter Europe, but that the numbers need to be controlled! Meanwhile the left will continue to lose more and more support for the working class as they keep insisting in open borders and the scrapping of all immigration controls. Not wonder Jeremy Corbyn who I used to admire is a long way behind Therea May in the polls. The left is shooting itself in the foot over its ultra liberal attitude to migration.
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You ain't fooling me mate with your casual dropping in of Madagascar.
 
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Matchbox said:
Why is it that when anyone at all says that Europe has taken in its fair share of refugees and does not have the room or the resources to cope with any more then many people think they are being racist? No wonder there has been a massive racist backlash against refugees across Europe! And don't you know that when leftists keep shouting; "No borders!" All they do is put working class people off the left and drive them into the arms of UKIP and other nationalist parties! No one is saying that no refugees or migrants at all should be allowed to enter Europe, but that the numbers need to be controlled! Meanwhile the left will continue to lose more and more support for the working class as they keep insisting in open borders and the scrapping of all immigration controls. No wonder Jeremy Corbyn who I used to admire is a long way behind Therea May in the polls. The left is shooting itself in the foot over its ultra liberal attitude to migration.
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do you think the UK taking in 1600 syrian refugees last year was anything like enough?

yes that's 1600 out of the several million who've had to flee syria, so we've taken under 0.1% - that's fucking disgraceful, and by anyone's standards I can't see how anyone who isn't either a racist prick, or hopelessly ignorant of the actual figures involved can talk about it in the way you are.
 
25 million already living Madagascans might have some objection to this plan - especially given that it's one of the most rapidly deforesting and poorest countries on earth right now.

About this "not enough resources" argument - do people who trot this line out seriously think that Kazakhstan / Afghanistan / Madagascar / Ghana / wherever actually has more spare cash to deal with refugees' needs than the UK or EU? Or are they just not honest enough to openly say "well we've got more money than they do, but we just don't want to share any of it?"
 
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