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Brixton violence and looting (7th Aug 2011)

stevebradley said:
Just what Brixton needs - a dose of recreational looting/rioting/vandalism. That'll really do wonders for the neighbourhood.

Brixton's reputation as an area to the 'outside world' has been slowly improving a lot in recent years. This just sets the clock back, and will hurt everyone in Brixton one way or another. :mad:
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Nothing that the council hasn't been doing for a long time.
 
@quimcunx- I didn't know that, so many apologies for my ignorance. Anyway, I'd be happy tonight with no choppers, as i think everyone would!
 
Emet said:
More peace, quiet; less crime and violence. See the merit in that?

Imagine a world populated entirely by the underclass. They'd soon run out of flatscreens.

I don't see any romance in the underclass.
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The thing is Emet riots are not a recent thing. They often happened due to peaceful demos turned violent. Also they happen when people dont think they are going to get justice. The Police have shot people before and the actual truth - whether they were justified or not - never is known.

Whether riots can be seen as "revolutionary" is an interesting question. The 81 riot has been romanticised or historically perceived as a justifiable "uprising".

The concept of an Underclass is contentious. Though the working class has often been split between those who regard them as respectable and the rest. I would also draw a distinction between people who are gangster/ mafia types and people who just dont have much.

Riots are not nice or predictable. Even when the reasons behind them are understandable.

As we live in a unequal society I dont blame people for looting Currys. I wouldnt support the looting of a the corner shop but i dont give a toss about Currys.
 
Looks like they've had a bit of trouble up Streatham as well

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Gramsci said:
The thing is Emet riots are not a recent thing. They often happened due to peaceful demos turned violent. Also they happen when people dont think they are going to get justice. The Police have shot people before and the actual truth - whether they were justified or not - never is known.

Whether riots can be seen as "revolutionary" is an interesting question. The 81 riot has been romanticised or historically perceived as a justifiable "uprising".

The concept of an Underclass is contentious. Though the working class has often been split between those who regard them as respectable and the rest. I would also draw a distinction between people who are gangster/ mafia types and people who just dont have much.

Riots are not nice or predictable. Even when the reasons behind them are understandable.

As we live in a unequal society I dont blame people for looting Currys. I wouldnt support the looting of a the corner shop but i dont give a toss about Currys.
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I wonder what classes all those student rioters belonged to?
 
Quite a few people* been making their way up the hill in the last few minutes. Maybe it's finished for the night.

If they were looters they weren't very good, got mugged or stuck to pocket-sized gadgets and sports attire.
 
stevebradley said:
Just what Brixton needs - a dose of recreational looting/rioting/vandalism. That'll really do wonders for the neighbourhood.

Brixton's reputation as an area to the 'outside world' has been slowly improving a lot in recent years. This just sets the clock back, and will hurt everyone in Brixton one way or another. :mad:
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No it wont set the clock back. These riots are clearly across London not just Brixton. If anything it will put Londons safety in question in the run up to the Olympics.

If that is what you think of this riot I take it you think the same of the 1981 riot/ uprising / disorder?
 
chavezcat said:
@quimcunx- I didn't know that, so many apologies for my ignorance. Anyway, I'd be happy tonight with no choppers, as i think everyone would!
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That's ok. It's still Brixton's Morleys. I still feel loyalty to it if you can feel loyalty to a shop. Not sure if the family still have shares and my info on owners might be out of date now.
 
quimcunx said:
Quite a few people* been making their way up the hill in the last few minutes. Maybe it's finished for the night.

If they were looters they weren't very good, got mugged or stuck to pocket-sized gadgets and sports attire.
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May have dumped their 42-inchers at a friend's nearer to Curry's. They're not the lightest things to carry. Maybe Curry's had run out by the time they got there
 
Gramsci said:
Its Urban75 resident LD I think. The new boards seem to have mislaid some posters number of posts from old boards.
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Yes, I knew I recognised the name as a local councillor. Maybe he has to go past 100 posts to achieve non-new poster status?
 
Gramsci said:
No it wont set the clock back. These riots are clearly across London not just Brixton. If anything it will put Londons safety in question in the run up to the Olympics.

If that is what you think of this riot I take it you think the same of the 1981 riot/ uprising / disorder?
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I agree. I don't think it will set it back. As much as I hate the yuppy invasion, it has been invaded by lots of media types and these are the people that will publish stories saying how much they still love Brixton and encouraging more of them to move here. I reckon anyway
 
Minnie_the_Minx said:
I wonder what classes all those student rioters belonged to?
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I don't give a shit, the cause was just. And if a few thousand middle class kids and their parents learned exactly what the police will do to maintain the edicts of the state then well and good. At this point it is clear we are all due for an ungreased shafting, and on the issue of fees we shouldn't crow just because some of those kids are more privileged than ourselves.
 
TruXta said:
In that case you're just being a dick. Gotcha.
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What is the problem with pointing out that Brixton would be a very much less crime-ridden place if it was populated by people less given to committing crime.

I was in a convenience store on Railton Road last week. I witnessed a bunch of teenagers stealing alcoholic drink from the store. I would have liked to have told the proprietor but I had to think about whether I wanted a knife in my gut.
 
DotCommunist said:
I don't give a shit, the cause was just. And if a few thousand middle class kids and their parents learned exactly what the police will do to maintain the edicts of the state then well and good. At this point it is clear we are all due for an ungreased shafting, and on the issue of fees we shouldn't crow just because some of those kids are more privileged than ourselves.
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That was directed at Emet who seems to think rioting and looting is a working class thing.
 
Emet said:
What is the problem with pointing out that Brixton would be a very much less crime-ridden place if it was populated by people less given to committing crime.

I was in a convenience store on Railton Road last week. I witnessed a bunch of teenagers stealing alcoholic drink from the store. I would have liked to have told the proprietor but I had to think about whether I wanted a knife in my gut.
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How do you know they weren't middle class teenagers?
 
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