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Brixton violence and looting (7th Aug 2011)

Emet said:
What is the problem with pointing out that Brixton would be a very much less crime-ridden place if it was populated by people less given to committing crime.

I was in a convenience store on Railton Road last week. I witnessed a bunch of teenagers stealing alcoholic drink from the store. I would have liked to have told the proprietor but I had to think about whether I wanted a knife in my gut.
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More to the point, if you live in Brixton (and I assume you do), why did you even move here if the working classes/poor people/uneducated people bother you that much?
 
Tweets that Argos in Streatham is being looted. FFS

And on that note, I'm off to bed before the helicopter decides to return
 
Gramsci said:
The thing is Emet riots are not a recent thing. They often happened due to peaceful demos turned violent. Also they happen when people dont think they are going to get justice. The Police have shot people before and the actual truth - whether they were justified or not - never is known.

Whether riots can be seen as "revolutionary" is an interesting question. The 81 riot has been romanticised or historically perceived as a justifiable "uprising".

The concept of an Underclass is contentious. Though the working class has often been split between those who regard them as respectable and the rest. I would also draw a distinction between people who are gangster/ mafia types and people who just dont have much.

Riots are not nice or predictable. Even when the reasons behind them are understandable.

As we live in a unequal society I dont blame people for looting Currys. I wouldnt support the looting of a the corner shop but i dont give a toss about Currys.
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The riot in Brixton is not much about justice, if at all. There is recreational destruction and criminal acquisition, that is about all.
 
Minnie_the_Minx said:
More to the point, if you live in Brixton (and I assume you do), why did you even move here if the working classes/poor people/uneducated people bother you that much?
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The working classes don't bother me at all, nor the poor. The people I saw tonight weren't working class.
 
Wonder what the Police will do tomorrow, there'll be even more kids on the street in London tomorrow night.
 
Belushi said:
Wonder what the Police will do tomorrow, there'll be even more kids on the street in London tomorrow night.
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Doubt there's much left to loot in Brixton now. Maybe protecting the shops that haven't been looted?

Reports of smaller independent shops (eg. offies/corner shops being looted now). Wish they'd all just fuck off home and get a grip

Goodnight
 
What the hell is wrong with these people? What has anything that went on in Tottenham got to do with Brixton? There is no excuse for this sort of behaviour, they're harming themselves just as much as the rest of us who stayed away.

It's the equivalent of shitting in your own bed.

I cannot understand why so many people round here seem to think that this is acceptable behaviour. It's nothing to do with justice, it's nothing to do with revenge, it's just idiot opportunists thinking that they somehow have a 'right' to behave like animals.
 
Has anyone ventured out to try and get a bus/tube yet? I have heard that some buses running through the high st but tfl still says on divert. Don't want to head out for no reason if I can go back to bed for an hour to try and snooze now the helicopter seems to have disappeared for 5 minutes! Thanks.
 
My girlfriend just called to say that the tube station is closed, but that the buses are running.

I'm now getting back to set up my new 60" 3D tv....
 
There's a strange person asleep in my front room....presumably a waif from the disturbances...my son and lodger were still locked inside premises on CHL at about 3:30 am so I have no idea of what was happening after I went to bed
 
Going down the hill this morning I noticed that there were some plod outside Arlington Electrical on the hill, and the front window smashed in.

I can't help but imagine some yoof on a bike going down the hill balancing a fridge freezer on the handlebars...

Also further along CHL (past the railway bridge towards the Barrier Block) there was a smashed up car, and a mark in the middle of the road that looked like there had been a fire.
 
Buses are running with some on diversion. Heard a fair bit going on last night and the helicopters about but did not stroll out to nose round. Really enjoyed Brixton Splash yesterday, was a bit lively but not bad.
 
Thanks L_C, yeah, I heard that on 5Live (iirc) last. I rang my son and lodger at 3:30 to say I thought it unlikely that the police would let them leave and go the few hundred yards from work to home, so they'd best get some sleep there if they could. When I woke up at 7:30 this morning to take the dog out there was someone asleep on the sofa downstairs. I'm about to go to the corner shop (hopefully still intact) in the hope that there are cigarettes on the premises.
 
Funny thing for me is I was looking at shirts in H&M on Sat, couldn't be bothered with the long (Sales) queues and thought I'd go back this morning.....
 
Minnie_the_Minx said:
Yes, I knew I recognised the name as a local councillor. Maybe he has to go past 100 posts to achieve non-new poster status?
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Oh i see. This is the new board saying that people are new until a 100 posts.

Not like me the new boards already given me "Addict" status.:)

If u have less than a 100 posts ru in the posting underclass?:eek:
 
Just read the first few pages of the thread, some of you look a little silly now!

My walk to work just got Weirder and weirder..curry sealed off....to footlocker burnt out! Insane
 
I don't feel silly at all. I went out last night and looked and saw and heard nothing despite reports on twitter that there was rioting a couple of hundred yards from my house. Some of the stuff on twitter last night and the night before was unsubstantiated twaddle. When I saw saw the hendopolis twitter stuff I knew that was someone I could trust. I was ringing my son who was locked in his work along with co-workers on police orders and I was a bit worried (mainly because of the possibility of fire). I've been out and about in the last half hour and it doesn't look like any of the riots I've lived through in Brixton. I would call it sporadic looting which is not the same thing.
 
Ran into Rachel Heyward (Coldhabour councillor) who said there was some incident near Southwick House about 18:30 yesterday. May not be related though I guess.

Just wandered down to Currys - loads of bits of broken paving slab on the ground plus various bits of packaging.

Still a fire engine outside Foot Locker.

Nandos has had it's front door smashed in.

General smell of burning in the air.
 
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