Brixton Somerleyton Road development, Ovalhouse and Brixton Green - funding, proposed rents etc

[editor]

The bad news for Brixton Green is that there's now video evidence that proves without any doubt that I was not in the building and scaring children as they claimed. And then there's the matter of the multiple eye witnesses and the police who also know that I was not there. They'd better hurry up with that apology as things are going to get a whole load trickier for them soon.

 

[Gramsci]

Actually there was a mention of this in the cabinet item about Somerleyton Road.
Cllr Jack kind of glossed over it, saying words to the effect that there had been a problem and people had fallen out, but it was now all sorted.

What annoys me about this is in the case of the residents who live on the site- at Carlton Mansions- we got the Council on our case like a ton of bricks.

In the case of of Brixton Green they get treated with kid gloves.

The fact of the matter is BG , supposedly representing the community interests, were given Number 6 to manage as a Meanwhile use.

As in the case of Pop Brixton this was experiment to see how things would work.

Its turned out to be a disaster. The very time BG were given the opportunity to show us all how to do it they screwed it up.

BG cannot blame anyone else for this. The Council gave it to them. Its not the Councils fault.

So instead of glossing it over Cllr Hopkins should take a serious look at BGs further involvement in the scheme. To look at other ways to involve the community.

 

[Tricky Skills]

So instead of glossing it over Cllr Hopkins should take a serious look at BGs further involvement in the scheme. To look at other ways to involve the community.

Cllr Hopkins and Brad are pretty indistinguishable to me.

 

[Gramsci]

Cllr Hopkins and Brad are pretty indistinguishable to me.

Interesting the Cllr Hopkins said that the problem had been sorted.

Its not sorted out yet from what I have heard. Still ongoing. Its the Council who have had to step in to try and sort out mess caused by BG.

 

[editor]

Brixton Green really are a shambles.



Brixton Green stand accused in video for 6 Somerleyton Road community centre

 

[Pickman's model]

Brixton Green really are a shambles.



Brixton Green stand accused in video for 6 Somerlyton Road community centre

are you missing an e from somerleyton?

 

[editor]

are you missing an e from somerleyton?

It was a momentary oversight.

 

[Pickman's model]

It was a momentary oversight.

even homer nods

 

[editor]

 

[Gramsci]

Brixton Green really are a shambles.



Brixton Green stand accused in video for 6 Somerleyton Road community centre

I was chatting to someone who was not unsympathetic to BG who said the situation at number 6 was "chaotic"

Only this week at Cabinet, Cllr Jack Hopkins, the Cabinet member for Jobs and Growth described working with Brixton Green as like working with a “family.” The experience of many local people has led them to question if this is a dysfunctional family.

Did he mean like Italian mafia?

 

[David Clapson]

To save me reading the whole thread, I wonder if someone could tell me who runs BG and what their goals are?

 

[editor]

To save me reading the whole thread, I wonder if someone could tell me who runs BG and what their goals are?

No one knows. That's the problem.

 

[organicpanda]

'Association of Pinnocchio with Brixton Green is defamatory. If you do not remove the artwork immediately you will be party to defamation.'
Brad Carroll
Director
Brixton Green

anyone else seen this quote on Facebook? had to share

 

[Gramsci]

I was going to put this up as well organicpanda as also saw it on my FB

After seeing editor photo just had to go down to get my photo. Happened to turn up when the ex Number 6 were present. Appears BG ie Brad are emailing and phoning all and sundry. They are apoplectic with anger.

I told the person who did it I thought it was great piece of street art. Instead of being just angry it used humour. In the best traditions of satire. Well impressed. It overlooks the main street for all to see.

Had a long chat with those who did this. Probably not best to repeat all that was said here. As the issue to still ongoing. Including legal issues.

My view is that Council should take BG off the steering group of the Somerleyton road project. Same goes for Green Man who after what has happened should be kept off the project until this has all been resolved. That is imo the number 6 should be kept empty for the while. Brixton Green contract with Council should be suspended until this is satisfactorily dealt with. I also think the Council should make a statement about how they are dealing with this situation.

 

[Gramsci]

To save me reading the whole thread, I wonder if someone could tell me who runs BG and what their goals are?

Brad.

There goal is and always has been to get control of the site.

The Somerleyton road project is a Council run project. The Council have hired architects etc to produce plans for the project. The Council will borrow funds to build the project and will retain the freehold.

Oval house theatre will relocate to the site. They will raise funds to build a new theatre on the site. Which they will manage. The old Carlton Mansions building will be converted into workshops (hopefully) to be managed by OHT.

Brixton Green is run by local worthies. They hope that the Council will hand over site for them to manage under some kind of new managing body. Yet to be decided (publicly that is)

So the Council gave them Number 6 to manage as a Meanwhile use. As experiment so that BG could show how they can deal with local community and manage part of site.

 

[Tricky Skills]

As experiment so that BG could show how they can deal with local community and manage part of site.

Because that worked out well.

It is this whole petri-dish style experimentation with the Co-op Council that is so infuriating. Try out new Third Way models, be innovative, collaborative, incubate bollocks.

These might sound sexy for an Officer writing a Council report, but they are bloody destructive when you try and 'implement' them in the real world where people need help and support.

 

[Gramsci]

On Sunday it was painted over:

And today I saw its back:

 

[organicpanda]

On Sunday it was painted over:

And today its back:

I hope whoever painted it over on Sunday either cleans up the paint or is charged for the cleaning up operation

 

[Gramsci]

I hope whoever painted it over on Sunday either cleans up the paint or is charged for the cleaning up operation

Yes they dripped the paint all over the Councils nice paving.

 

[Gramsci]

I wonder who did it? Looks like it was done by someone who was very very angry.

 

[organicpanda]

I wonder who did it? Looks like it was done by someone who was very very angry.

'strokes chin'

 

[Tricky Skills]

Well this is most odd. The mysterious Brixton Green has re-published the statement to its website. Except it has been edited to delete out the lies that it has been telling about Brixton Buzz, editor and me. But absolutely no explanation as to why the edits have taken place, let alone a public apology.

And Lambeth Council somehow still feels fine to partner up with the organisation.

 

[Gramsci]

Well this is most odd. The mysterious Brixton Green has re-published the statement to its website. Except it has been edited to delete out the lies that it has been telling about Brixton Buzz, editor and me. But absolutely no explanation as to why the edits have taken place, let alone a public apology.

And Lambeth Council somehow still feels fine to partner up with the organisation.

Your link does not quite work. Statement here

I see it says Brixton Buzz have responsibility to report the facts.

Yet again in this edited version BG are taking credit for things that are not down to them.

Great organisations coming to Somerleyton Road

We’ve convinced some great organisations to locate on Somerleyton Road.

• The Ovalhouse Theatre will be moving to the Coldharbour Lane end, along with a creative hub for other Brixton creative and cultural organisations.

No they did not convince Ovalhouse to come to Brixton. As I said before OHT were looking at the site long before BG turned up.

In 2013, after 5 years of campaigning, Brixton Green convinced Lambeth Council to develop the road in partnership with the community. This was a hard slog. There were dozens of meetings and a lot of lobbying and work to prove what the community wanted was viable. It was touch and go at times. But we succeeded. Early next year construction is due to start.

Incorrect. The Council had been looking at options for the site for a while. One of which was that the Council develop the site. Its something that other Councils in London have been doing. It was not down to BG that the Labour administration took the political decision to develop the site itself.

The BG statement still mixes up what the Council have decided with BG.

 

[Tricky Skills]

The June minutes [pdf] for the Somerleyton Road Steering Group have now been published after a little more prompting.



Street Party and Public Realm consultation event (27th June)

"Street Party / Public Realm engagement event discussed. Some nervousness expressed by architects due to local tensions, but all agreed to proceed following work behind the scenes by SD and Brixton Green to resolve."

No 6 is still locked. Some resolution.

 

[editor]

I shall be making a statement on the defamatory lies that Brixton Green published about me shortly. I have given them ample opportunity to apologise, so instead it shall be on the front page of Brixton Buzz and tweeted out to 20k followers.

 

[teuchter]

No 6 is still locked. Some resolution.

As I understand it their line is that it is available to anyone that wants to hire it out. Which seems reasonable enough unless it was previously agreed that it was free to use and that it would be left unlocked.

Whether there's been a change in policy over its use is very unclear. Despite all the "news" reports none seem to have established what the actual deal was/is.

 

[editor]

Whether there's been a change in policy over its use is very unclear. Despite all the "news" reports none seem to have established what the actual deal was/is.

Good luck getting any clear information out of Brixton Green.

 

[teuchter]

It's a question that the groups who have been "locked out" ought to be able to answer.

 

[editor]

It's a question that the groups who have been "locked out" ought to be able to answer.

Why don't you drop them a line? I'm sure they'd be happy to answer.

 

[Gramsci]

As I understand it their line is that it is available to anyone that wants to hire it out. Which seems reasonable enough unless it was previously agreed that it was free to use and that it would be left unlocked.

Whether there's been a change in policy over its use is very unclear. Despite all the "news" reports none seem to have established what the actual deal was/is.

What proof do you want?

It might be Brixton Green line that anyone can hire it. But that is just them saying it. Ru saying you take what BG say on face value?

I have dealt with BG in past. I have also talked to SWU and Brixton Come Together.

I suggest you do as you clearly do not believe what is posted here.

I do not just come on here and make stuff up.