Brixton news, rumours and general chat - March 2013
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Frumious B.
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Congrats to the 414 owners on getting through this crisis. Sounds like they handled it very well. Here's the barrister who represented them last night http://www.gardencourtchambers.co.uk/barristers/michael_paget.cfm
Gramsci
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No but it looks to me that in a few years time most venues will have ID machines.
I wonder if soon it will be condition for licensing new clubs. ie where there is no history of incidents.
I took u as one of those guardianista baiting right wing libertarians? Did I get that wrong?
Gramsci
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Licensing and Cllrs would have little to do with this. Once the police step in ( it was a shooting) the Council follow whatever they say. As Rushy pointed put and in my experience as well licensing are not that pro active over other matters . In Lambeth the Labour Cllrs make a virtue of giving uncritical support to the police. Does not cost them anything.
This was the police sorting this out. They were in a difficult position. Trident has been closed down. They have to show that shootings are taken seriously. But also they cannot just argue that Reggae nights at 414 be banned as condition of license being kept. As this would be seen as discriminatory.
So everyone has to suffer because of that and put up with ID scanning. So the authorities do not want to be seen to be discriminatory but its ok to interfere with peoples (unwritten) right to go about there lives with privacy.
Frumious B.
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Can't the 414 put on reggae nights with a different promoter? Or do them in-house with no promoter?
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
I think s/he's just an old fashioned twunt. Pissed off the mods already, I can tell you that. Not an intelligent move.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
Glad 414 have got their licence back quickly, but gutted about the new ID scanning restrictions. It's not on.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
Going back a few pages, really sad to hear about BEM, the music/DJ shop. Have bought lots of stuff from there over the years. Went there last Saturday to buy a cable and saw the sign saying "closed for maintenance" - didn't realise they've actually closed for good. Loss of another decent independent shop. 
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Frank does have another shop somewhere but I don't know where.
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hiraethified
The website has gone so I don't think he's doing anything music related.
The Phoenix has definitely bought the old shop, by the way.
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Mind you, he was fairly old and crotchety when I moved here 32 years ago, maybe he's just retired.
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hiraethified
They're not going to be doing any reggae nights.
you are never wrong
just lol. respect your authoritah
So is Phoenix moving or just starting new place.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
I was gonna ask the same thing. The plans to redevelop the current Phoenix have been around for a while - they're gonna do them soon I think ( iirc, they are going to open up the place into one big room, open up the kitchen, add a customer toilet and generally update the place a bit.) There's been a caff on the site of the Phoenix for like 100 years or something and the history is important to them, so I assume they will only be moving temporarily. I'll ask when I'm in on Saturday.
Franco Manca article in the Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodandd...uth-Giuseppe-Mascoli-Brixtons-pizza-king.html
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Mascoli was one of the first Europeans to 'invade’ the exclusively Afro-Caribbean market that snakes its way through three blocks of Victorian buildings. Before then the market was an emporium beloved of locals where you could buy plantains, rare reggae CDs, live giant snails or a voodoo charm. Among hundreds of stalls there was one European style deli, the delightful Rosie’s, and a more conventional pizzeria, Franco’s (later Eco.) Mascoli bought it, giving it a new, somewhat idiosyncratic name. “In Italian ’Manca’ means 'gone’ – Franco’s gone,” he says.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodandd...uth-Giuseppe-Mascoli-Brixtons-pizza-king.html
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Mascoli was one of the first Europeans to 'invade’ the exclusively Afro-Caribbean market that snakes its way through three blocks of Victorian buildings. Before then the market was an emporium beloved of locals where you could buy plantains, rare reggae CDs, live giant snails or a voodoo charm. Among hundreds of stalls there was one European style deli, the delightful Rosie’s, and a more conventional pizzeria, Franco’s (later Eco.) Mascoli bought it, giving it a new, somewhat idiosyncratic name. “In Italian ’Manca’ means 'gone’ – Franco’s gone,” he says.
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simonSW2
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Typing "Brixton Is" into Google then reading the auto-complete top 5:
1. Brixton is a nice place to live
2. Brixton is it safe
3. Brixton is rough
4. Brixton is changing
5. Brixton is cool
I wonder if 'is changing' is a recent high result, or if it's always been like that.
Typing in 'Lambeth is' - the top result is : "Lambeth Is Britain's angriest borough"
hahaha. well odd.
Inspired by this London wide post:
http://londonist.com/2013/03/an-autocomplete-guide-to-london.php
1. Brixton is a nice place to live
2. Brixton is it safe
3. Brixton is rough
4. Brixton is changing
5. Brixton is cool
I wonder if 'is changing' is a recent high result, or if it's always been like that.
Typing in 'Lambeth is' - the top result is : "Lambeth Is Britain's angriest borough"
hahaha. well odd.
Inspired by this London wide post:
http://londonist.com/2013/03/an-autocomplete-guide-to-london.php
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
Except that's a big fat lie. The market wasn't at any point exclusively Afro-Caribbean and I've lived here for 32 years. This statement does remind me of the racist who saw my daughter's school photo and spluttered "But they're all black!" when in fact less than a third were black, asian or mixed race.
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
Load of tosh. Stereotyping again. The market was never "exclusively afro-Carribbean" FFS. It's just that these journos never went in the indoor markets before (and probably never even to Brixton) and now they're like "oh look, white people, it must be ok now!" fucking middle class racists.
E2A: just seen Mrs M made the same point!
Great minds think alike and all that 
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hiraethified
I always do those kind of searches in an incognito window.
Frumious B.
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Yes, I read the interview where they say they won't put them on any more. But even if they wanted to, would the police allow it?
And what's the backstory to reggae being problematic? Is it a gang thing?
TruXta
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"Black" music events in certain areas of London have been subject to stricter police controls for quite a few years now.
Frumious B.
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Rosie says she was the first white tenant. Maybe the journo got it from her.
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hiraethified
I doubt it. The 414 is renown for being a friendly, safe, family run club and I'm pretty sure they're unlikely to put that reputation at risk.
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hiraethified
Well that's a load of bollocks.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
That's rubbish, she bought the business (then called Boca) from a lovely white Scottish woman who had to sell up and go home because of family illness.
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