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So... major obstructions to the pavement on Atlantic Road have been reported to Lambeth and they've failed to deal with them?
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So... major obstructions to the pavement on Atlantic Road have been reported to Lambeth and they've failed to deal with them?
Gramsci
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Analysis on Radio 4 had a programme this evening on gentrification.
Whilst leaving out Council housing it covered a lot of different positions.
Berlin was discussed. Berlin has rent controls and secure tenancies in the rented sector. Also has brought in new planning guidelines. To stop developers building expensive flats its even has planning guidelines on the interiors of flats. Banning luxury items like marble floors etc. Be interesting to see any Council/ Government try to introduce that here.
The American academic Richard Florida, the American academic, who some years ago put forward the idea of "Boho" revitalisation by what he calls the Creative Class of run down areas was a good thing for cities , was on the programme. He has now qualified his position. See that these people get displaced with the further gentrification of cities in US and here he now argues that these areas should be protected from further pricing out of people. In order to keep Cities diverse and dynamic.
Another view ( from a developer) was that gentrification was a natural process. The "Creatives" come along make and area popular then get priced out. When asked what happens to the "Creatives" he said they can move elsewhere and repeat the process. The "Laissez Faire" approach. That is just how the world is, you cant buck the market.
Whilst leaving out Council housing it covered a lot of different positions.
Berlin was discussed. Berlin has rent controls and secure tenancies in the rented sector. Also has brought in new planning guidelines. To stop developers building expensive flats its even has planning guidelines on the interiors of flats. Banning luxury items like marble floors etc. Be interesting to see any Council/ Government try to introduce that here.
The American academic Richard Florida, the American academic, who some years ago put forward the idea of "Boho" revitalisation by what he calls the Creative Class of run down areas was a good thing for cities , was on the programme. He has now qualified his position. See that these people get displaced with the further gentrification of cities in US and here he now argues that these areas should be protected from further pricing out of people. In order to keep Cities diverse and dynamic.
Another view ( from a developer) was that gentrification was a natural process. The "Creatives" come along make and area popular then get priced out. When asked what happens to the "Creatives" he said they can move elsewhere and repeat the process. The "Laissez Faire" approach. That is just how the world is, you cant buck the market.
Gramsci
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Its been mentioned at meetings. The Council are fully aware the pavements on Atlantic road have been encroached on.
They do send officers around checking up on stallholders using the pavement - see the Iceland issue.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Sometimes with the Council I think its bureaucracy. Someone in Council saw that bit of pavement was being filled up and they would nip it in the bud now. Whilst trying to deal with Atlantic road is much more difficult.
Ms T
Honey-coloured ramparts
They did tell A&C they had to clear the pavement in front of their shop, which contributed to their decision to close.
bimble
floofy
What about the huge advertising billboards cemented into the middle of the pavement on CHL up here in LJ, that we all have to walk around every day. I'd like to report those but don't think it would get very far.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
That "street furniture" was a deal done by the coalition council in the 1990s. I should know - I was on it - as someone once said.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
I know it brings in money to the council but I agree with you. Don't know the LJ situation but always get annoyed by the one in the middle of the pavement on Acre Lane on walk from Town Hall to Tesco's.
Keeping pavements clear is a constant battle in London, with businesses trying to push the boundaries and cars parking on them. It's a fight worth having however, even when the things blocking the pavements are nice things.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
The ones that piss me off are the mock Clochmerle loos - such as the one in the middle of the grass at Clapham South close by the soon to be renovated London transport rotunda.
Surely anyone caught short would rather spend their penny pissing on the grass than paying JC Deceaux 50p for providing a faked up Victorian superloo similar to this:
(note that the Clapham South example is some metres away from the pavement - so even in broad daylight it probably makes sense to piss outside if you're in a hurry!)
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I had a look along Beehive Place while I was out at lunchtime.
The various objects have been moved back towards the wall so that there is now a reasonable amount of space in front of them for people to pass. Whether Lambeth will accept this as sufficient I have no idea but it seems a sensible solution. A couple of folk were sitting on the benches in the sun. I am all for provision of places for people to sit so was pleased to see this.
A walk down the alleyway confirmed that there are a number of doors opening onto it. Some looked like residential, plus a couple of businesses. Including this:
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So it's not true to say hardly anyone needs to get down there. Although, as explained earlier, the number of people that need to use the pavement shouldn't be relevant. The pavement should be kept sufficiently clear that everyone can use it for what it's designed for.
The various objects have been moved back towards the wall so that there is now a reasonable amount of space in front of them for people to pass. Whether Lambeth will accept this as sufficient I have no idea but it seems a sensible solution. A couple of folk were sitting on the benches in the sun. I am all for provision of places for people to sit so was pleased to see this.
A walk down the alleyway confirmed that there are a number of doors opening onto it. Some looked like residential, plus a couple of businesses. Including this:
Apex College » Why Study at ACL
So it's not true to say hardly anyone needs to get down there. Although, as explained earlier, the number of people that need to use the pavement shouldn't be relevant. The pavement should be kept sufficiently clear that everyone can use it for what it's designed for.
editor
hiraethified
Theme park Brixton, 2016:
Brixton Beach Boulevard returns as the Brixton Big Apple from October 27th
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Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Being mugged, raped and murdered for fun is always a great crack.
They can have a Son of Sam Night. The Great Black Out Night. A Burning Buildings Night. The Rooting Tooting Riot and Looting night.
It'll be ace.
DietCokeGirl
Fishing in the rivers of life
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
So much better pre-gentrification.
editor
hiraethified
Is that supposed to be a joke?
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I am wondering what the hell that is about.
It would be fair to say Brixton to South Ken & VV is easily done in 30 minutes by tube. I do it nearly every day in the Proms season - though in the evening rush hour the tube is very overcrowded - more genteel to take BR & the 52 bus from Victoria.
What is the point of the original Youtube clip? Just looks like time-lapse photography to me.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I particularly liked picture 13 which was rather reminiscent of Beehive Place I thought.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Funnily enough that place sounds more like one of the dodgy colleges Theresa May was supposed to have shut down whilst Home Secretary.
More politically right-on and humanitarian the former tenants of those offices were the World Development Movement - now rebranded as Global Justice Now - and operating out of 66 Offley Road SW9.
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editor
hiraethified
I passed along Beehive Place just now and had a chat with some of the people there. They laughed when I told them about the issue of wheelchair users supposedly being inconvenienced by the presence of the artwork - they know more than anyone how unlikely that would be.
It's already a disaster for pedestrian access anyway (see pics). Oh, and there's no doorways in use regularly that open up anywhere near the artwork, so that's more FUD.
There's a lot to moan about when it comes to the provision of disabled access along this stretch, but the artwork at the far end is just about the smallest concern of them all.
It's already a disaster for pedestrian access anyway (see pics). Oh, and there's no doorways in use regularly that open up anywhere near the artwork, so that's more FUD.
There's a lot to moan about when it comes to the provision of disabled access along this stretch, but the artwork at the far end is just about the smallest concern of them all.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Encouraging people to defend themselves will just get more people killed.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Icepick attacks????
editor
hiraethified
Haven't you heard about the recent spate of Eskimo vs Baltic fisherman battles along Coldharbour Lane?
#chilling
Rushy
basically a scrotum
I have a mate who was mugged with a knife for his laptop outside Stockwell tube. Not going to pretend for a second that I have a clue what various martial arts he did but it was to the obsessive level that he regularly visited his "master" in Thailand. He could literally disable me with a grip and a couple of pressure points. His advice was "if you can, always run". And he did.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
Absolutely. My boy has been mugged twice. Both times there was a threat of being 'stabbed'.
Both times he just handed his stuff over...but asked for his sim card...(which he did get)...then he legged it and had a good cry.
The 2nd time his mum went out and found the lads. Lucky for them the Police arrived before she got hold of 'em...but again it was daft of her to approach them as they may have stabbed her.
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