Brixton news, rumour and general chat - March 2016
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madolesance
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Looks like Dirty Burgers are trying to open up in The Phoenix mk2.
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hiraethified
A burger bar! That's sells beer! Please God, not another fucking Shoreditch chain moving in to what's rapidly becoming hipster clone town Brixton.
But you have to admire their out-there edginess. Look at this for sheer urban grit! Danger!
(Do you think they've even painted the bins to make them look rusty?)
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
What is most telling is that these landlords have made such huge gains in recent years, and charge such high rents, that they can write off properties for months, and years.
cuppa tee
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...........there could be a bit of interest in this spot, because its right by the fake parisian street furnitureproposed in the market revamp
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hiraethified
Always room for one more edgy burger bar chain from Shoreditch!...........there could be a bit of interest in this spot, because its right by the fake parisian street furnitureproposed in the market revamp
That's not what happened though. They were let down by one company. Had to find someone new, renegotiate etc.
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hiraethified
So you're saying that they didn't triple the rent and force Steve out of the bar that he had single handedly turned into a huge success after years of failed ventures on that site?
How interesting. Where are you getting this from? Source and details please.
He had a short cheap lease.
The lease ended
He knew the rent would go up
He didn't even bother negotiating
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hiraethified
You haven't actually answered my question or provided any sources as requested.
The rent was tripled so he had no choice but to say no to the landlord's greedy demands. It's all documented here: The end of Brixton Kaff: a diary from the front line of gentrification
Now, how about your sources?
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
I don't want to speculate on the delay at ex-Kaff - let alone go over old ground. I was just expressing my dismay that properties can be left idle.
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hiraethified
Kaff has been empty since July 2015. Disgraceful, but hardly surprising.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Why is it hardly surprising?
Probably because the landlord makes money even if the building is empty on account of rising property values. The same thing happens in the residential sector with flats being bought and left empty just to capture the increase in property prices without the 'hassle' of dealing with tenants.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Of course. But it is still surprising that the landlord(s) has done nothing - there was a suggestion they wanted to run it themselves. They might be working on a plan though - and have hit obstructions.
Who knows? They are an elusive bunch and never explained their actions last summer.
bimble
floofy
Where's that drawing from?? So style, such impressionism. Is it a Lambeth commissioned artwork?...........there could be a bit of interest in this spot, because its right by the fake parisian street furnitureproposed in the market revamp
I doubt there'll be public space chairs that aren't cemented deep into the floor though.
No worries.
I just meant that everyone involved were trying to expedite everything as speedily as possible but sometimes things just take time
I know the people involved.
I was semi involved myself for a bit.
Most of what you think you know is just a PR whinge from steve Ross
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
Do they have to explain their actions?
bimble
floofy
It's kind of funny if you're in a good mood, that desperate attempt to evoke the thrill of inner city poverty, but just now to me it looks properly offensive. Corrugated iron, so ghetto. Like you're in downtown Kingston or something. But in downtown Kingston where a nice bit of topiary wouldn't do the job people struggle to get the shiny new stuff.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
No. But I prefer not to rely on the account of just one party in a dispute.
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hiraethified
Steve worked unbelievably hard to make that place a success - and provide a steady income for the landlords - and you have the audacity to dismiss his comments as a "PR whinge," while offering no insights from these mysterious, rent-tripling landlords.
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hiraethified
He doesn't care if the staff of The Baron are thrown on the dole after 40+ years service to Brixton, so I guess it's no surprise to see that he is unable to generate any understanding or empathy about the plight of Kaff.
Strange how his pals, the elusive rent tripling landlords, have never bothered to reply to the damning "PR whinge" from the tenant they booted out...
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
I agree. But if I was in their position I would have no interest in engaging with a random message board on my business decisions
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hiraethified
IIRC, I said at the time that they were more than welcome to post their account on Buzz, although given that they remained so secretive I wasn't able to approach then directly.
On a personal note I miss Kaff every day. Not only was it a wonderfully friendly and affordable place, they were also massively supportive on community ventures. They were the first to stock our beer and always gave back more money than they had to.
sparkybird
ask the bird...
Made me think of this mountainside ski bar in Switzerland actually.
Is that bar really called 'Horny'.... with a fried egg in it??
Well I guess it takes all sorts....
bimble
floofy
It's the alpine apres-ski version of Dirty Burger i think. Low down sexy rough and ready but still very expensive food..
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