shifting gears
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And if I do get a ban, it'll be worth it for calling you out as the snide fucker you are.
And I won't whinge about it if/when I come back.
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And if I do get a ban, it'll be worth it for calling you out as the snide fucker you are.
And I won't whinge about it if/when I come back.
shifting gears
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Makes me fucking sick that while people's lives are being ripped up in full view we've got this contingent of apologist cunts at every turn.... Sick to my fucking stomach
stethoscope
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Telling really that you'd get your post reported for calling out alcopop, rather than them calling out alcopop themselves.
@alcopop are you coming back to your 'Welfare traits' thread?, as it looks like as per usual you're all snidey one-liners, but rather less able or want to actually engage with people, let alone defend your positions.
@alcopop are you coming back to your 'Welfare traits' thread?, as it looks like as per usual you're all snidey one-liners, but rather less able or want to actually engage with people, let alone defend your positions.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
Cross thread beef; a dish best served repeatedly.
deadringer
meat pie sausage roll
Hand reared grass fed cross thread artisanal beef if you will.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
You could help reduce the number of people with views you find reprehensible by trying to change their mind on things, rather than revelling in the hate-fest opportunity. The "welfare traits" thread got off to a shaky start but as it turns out quite a few people have offered detailed and well referenced arguments explaining what's wrong with the book/article in question. Actually urban75 is very good at that when at its best. If people have opinions that are based on misinformation then the way to change that is with information, not by personal abuse. Depends what you really want to get out of "calling them out" of course.
Lucy Fur
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I agree with your sentiment, but the bottom line is that some posters make no attempt to engage, but offer up snide one liners looking to get a rise. You only have to look at the history of some posters to see this. The welfare traits thread got off to a sticky start because the OP wasn't trusted to be anything other than trolling, and has yet to contribute anything of note to it.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
yeh blame borisThey aren't on any routes that I currently use with any frequency so I've only travelled on one a few times but on each occasion it has pleased me. The interiors are much better than any standard bus, including the lighting. I don't read them as fake retro. I think they are quite successful in recalling some of the atmosphere of the old ones without being literal about it. There is perhaps a bit of knowing fake retro, with a touch of 60s psychedelia about it. There is no fake brass - there is some matt plastic that is a bit golden but I think the design gets away with it because of the way it's used. And I don't recall any fake marble.
I can see it's something that would have been difficult to get right within all the constraints which is why I reckon it's a pretty impressive piece of design.
The design faults that you can argue do exist - mainly functional ones - originate primarily in the brief.
Winot
I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint
I took the youngest to the Transport Museum at the weekend (first visit for years). She had great fun hopping on and off the platform of the old Routemasters but I was reminded just how impractical they were for pushchairs, wheelchairs and those with mobility issues. Much as I like them from a nostalgic perspective, they had no place as a transport solution in a modern crowded city.
shifting gears
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Yeah....because this very thread has completely failed to demonstrate how gentrification has wrought misery on much of Brixton. Failed repeatedly. Failed by using tons of real life, non-anecdotal examples. Just failed all round.
Nope, it's just that some people are scummy fucks who adhere to principles of greed and self-interest above all else.
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hiraethified
The Bowie shrine is still going strong, nine weeks later:
David Bowie and the Brixton shrine. Nine weeks after his death and the tributes continue
David Bowie and the Brixton shrine. Nine weeks after his death and the tributes continue
teuchter
je suis teuchter
We all know that gentrification is changing Brixton. We all know that parts of Brixton are amongst the most deprived in London. I think we pretty much all agree that gentrification has negative impacts on the least privileged. These threads do indeed demonstrate these facts but they are facts that most people living here know well for themselves and that's why the continual restating of them gets somewhat tedious.
What is more interesting and more significant are the questions that follow on from these facts. Are these negatives accompanied by some positives and what are they. What are the things that seem like positive effects but aren't really, or don't really exist. What are the causes of the processes that drive gentrification and what can we do about them. Who are the scapegoats and who are the real people to target. What are the false assumptions that are made. What are the kneejerk reactions that should be avoided. What are the effective ways of mitigating the effects when we can't control the causes. Where are good intentions having undesired effects. Etc etc etc.
These are more difficult questions, and questions where opinions come into play. They are opinions that are of course influenced by the widely differing experiences of living in Brixton that people have. These threads do continually fail to deal with these questions because such discussions become swamped out by repeated stating of the obvious and simplistic generalisations as well as people channeling their emotional responses to the issues into abusing those who have different experiences, opinions and prejudices to themselves, instead of trying to understand why others see things differently, and trying to persuade them to change their view.
My impression is that there are a few posters here who are more interested in looking for reasons to hate people. Maybe there are indeed *some* people who are entirely selfish and so rotten to the core that there's no hope of changing their views. But those posters certainly appear to be eager to assume the worst about people, and very willing to read in assumptions that go beyond what people have actually written. Whether or not those assumptions later turn out to be correct is beside the point, for anyone genuinely interested in engaging in a constructive kind of way.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
If you think it's trolling ignore it. Ultimately it doesn't matter too much about the OP's intentions. So what if it was designed to get a rise. That's true of much stuff on here. Whatever the intentions of the OP, an opinion or claim is aired, and there is the opportunity to explain why that claim is nonsense, to anyone who might read it and think "hm, they might have a point there". Better that people become aware of these viewpoints here, where there's scope for them to be challenged by people who know their stuff, than unwittingly in a newspaper or book where an author can make statements without them being questioned in a place that is visible to the reader.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
"Market rent" is rather a moveable feast. They were paying what the landlords were prepared to accept at the time. The landlords changed their ambitions, partly due to the success of Kaff.
The wyrm swallows its' own tail.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
As I replied to another poster, "market rent" is a moveable feast. It's a phenomenon entirely dependent on the desire of property-owners to make short-term gains.
We do, but we won't get them until capitalism has consumed more of those who feed it. Social housing won't be a real issue until "Bank of Mum & Dad" has been totally bled dry, and the whines of the chattering classes have reached a crescendo.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Well, we don't have to physically get rid of them - that would be wantonly cruel, as someone must love them!
Expropriation though, that'd work.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Yep. They worked when the population was smaller collectively and/or individually!
LadyV
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On the whole I like them, as others have said they've much more practical than the old ones and look better than bog standard buses. However if you've only just started using them, wait for the summer, they're lovely in the winter but in the summer, they only have, "comfort cooling", which I can confirm after been stuck in a traffic jam in one last summer does not cool nothing!! And of course there are no windows to open as that would muck up the comfort cooling and the back door can't be left open for the same reason, so the overall feeling is one of being stuck in an airless greenhouse on wheels.
However I think they're already on a Mark II of them so maybe a revised version will fix this, I know the Mark II fixed the back door which used to take your ankle out if you were stood near it, they now move outwards rather than inwards
LadyV
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Nice idea, sadly not overly practical as someone has to look after things but you hit the nail on the head in an earlier post when you said what's needed is more rent control and caps on percentage increases.
The problem is no government wants to be the one that puts in any form of rent control as they get accused of stunting businesses when in fact it landlords who are stunting businesses with their ridiculously high increases. For me, rent increases should be linked to inflation and when new leases are being decided on, there should be a scale where prices depend on quality of fit out, size of building, amenities etc but with a maximum cap that can be charged, not sure how practical that is either but it would be a start. At the moment, the landlord can just name his price and if anyone if daft enough to pay it, then that's the new market rent which then affects all the surrounding properties
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
I hope they fix the pram problem, which relates to the pole in the wheelchair area. But maybe it can't be moved.
For full teuchter marks that's the Vauxhall branch of the new chain. I'll be frequenting the establishment in about a week as there is a "do" in the really crap expensive place next door whose name I can't even remember......
There should be a Vauxhall thread really!
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
I have a wheelchair using pal who says the pole is not at all useful for him and stops him using the space efficiently...
snowy_again
Slush
There seems to be a strange obsession of photographing the queue into Brixton tube lately. Standing on the stairs fiddling with your smart phone whilst blocking everyone else isn't exactly the brightest thing to do.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
God bless queues and moaning and shit journeys to work.
Great Britain!!!
Great Britain!!!
DietCokeGirl
Fishing in the rivers of life
But with a time and date stamp set you can prove to your boss that you really did leave even earlier again today and yet STILL the transport system made you late again. Otherwise they'd never believe you.
snowy_again
Slush
Hmm, perhaps - the same as Japan where they issue 'late due to travel problems' letters at stations?
It doesn't really take much more time to get in, just amused at the urge to document and share everything.
I am aware I'm discussing this minutiae on a message board.
It doesn't really take much more time to get in, just amused at the urge to document and share everything.
I am aware I'm discussing this minutiae on a message board.
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