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Brixton Market redevelopment?

a new record shop* was open today next to rosie's and they were refurbing a unit next to it for another cafe.

*older hip hop from my brief gander
 
Crispy said:
Strangely enough, the proposed Overground station (that would probably have ended up being paid for by the redevelopment) would have been an ideal magnet for the market. If you had to walk past/through the market to get to the station, passing trade and familiarity would rocket.
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I think the proposals to build an overground station are actually part of the problem. Because National Rail and LT's consultants reckoned that it would cost £50 million to construct a new station on the viaduct (no I don't know how they got to that figure!) all the development proposals were looking at large scale demolition and rebuild with loads of housing on top to pay for the new station, which would inevitably completely change the character of the markets. Options for refurbishment and some smaller scale infill redevelopment didn't get a look in.
 
So, where does the money for the station come from? It's not a simple situation at all, and I don't see a clean solution
 
Surely if that figure got revised up from 2003 it will be revised down again. You know with the building trade being as it is...

Like the olympics. I am confidently awaiting new lower figures on the cost of that to be anounced...
 
yeah, but there's now less money chasing the cheaper prices - doesn't mean a building boom :(
even for the boom years, that's a lot of money for a 2 platform railway station
 
I'm not expecting building boom. Just curious about the spiralling building costs when it was a boom not apparently dropping now there is less of a boom...


Not that I've seen, anyhow.
 
Well contractors are falling over each other to give cheap quotes so they actually have some jobs. And steel prices have come way down now that China's not buying it all. But costs can't fall a great deal. The only big projects getting new funding in London right now are, broadly, the Olympics and Arab money-backed projects.
 
lang rabbie said:
A curious press release came out of the town hall today...



But surely those concerns were only possible because our Nu-Labour council had authorised the earlier Future Brixton planning documents that recommended demolishing Granville Arcade to build housing on top!



It is also half empty, which is a major challenge to everyone. Whatever gripes I share about the new property owners and their attempts to hike the traders' rents, the aisles of Granville Arcade furthest from Atlantic Road have been slowly dying for years...



When I hear the word "iconic", I reach for my revolver...
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The FB proposals do propose the increase of "mixed use" sites and higher buildings.So this is a confusing turn around unless FB are going to change the masterplan.The idea of more mixed use sites is that at different times of day the site would always see a use.This is supposed to stop dark unused (and therefore unsafe) areas at night-according to the masterplan.

Also the point that GA is important part of Windrush generation and reflects diversity etc is all very well. But ive seen nothing concrete in masterplan in how this historical heritage /diversity will be protected by the Council.The only way is for lowish rents and planning restrictions on unit size.Also some kind of diversity "monitering" I suppose.

The Windrush generations children have moved further into South London (Croydon).So that element has been slowly decreasing.

Im never sure what people want.If Brixton really changes the Market could be protected as a piece of architecture but could end up like Bermondsey market. Bermondsey market has kept the architecture but really is a posh eaterie area now. Protecting architectural heritage does not necessarilly result in preserving cultural heritage or diversity.
 
Pop vid of the market>>>
Rarely has Brixton market and even the grim multi-storey been so bigged up

this one totally passed me by, was lovin the 2step around that time though.
 
Nice!

Thanks for that, I've linked to it from brixtonmarket.net

The town centre needs marketing as a whole, that's what's not been happening. It takes organised groups of traders to do that (think: singleminded ;)), landlords have their own interests.
 
*Bumped as I've just posted up a piece looking back at what might have been at the Village/Granville Arcade:

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http://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2013/11/...ve-been-horrendous-developer-plans-from-2009/
 
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loulou82 said:
BS is not going to win any beauty awards but that thing looks like an architecture A level students project from 1992.
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How's that any different from BS?

Your new Barrats home looks like a bland, cheaply constructed office block from any town, anywhere and I imagine will be unlikely to be still around in 60 years time. It contributes nothing to the townscape.

And before you go, "but what about the Barrier Block?", I'll agree that it splits opinions, but at least it is distinctive, unique and built like a tank. And if you ever get to go inside, you'll see the flats are fabulously well designed with south facing terraces all around the back.
 
editor said:
How's that any different from BS?

Your new Barrats home looks like a bland, cheaply constructed office block from any town, anywhere and I imagine will be unlikely to be still around in 60 years time. It contributes nothing to the townscape.

And before you go, "but what about the Barrier Block?", I'll agree that it splits opinions, but at least it is distinctive, unique and built like a tank. And if you ever get to go inside, you'll see the flats are fabulously well designed with south facing terraces all around the back.
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I actually quite like the brutalism of the barrier block. It's a conversation point which is always a good thing in my opinion.

I'm not going to defend the architecture of BS, it could be the HQ of Wernham Hogg, but it will be my home. To be fair i've never lived in an 'attractive' building but have always tried my best to make the inside a real home.

The market is a piece of history that would have been violated if that development was allowed to proceed.
 
There's a difference between fugly and bland. BS is bland, that building is just fugly. Whenever I see a combination of yellow and red I think of a hotdog, and although that rendering is only a few years old it looks severely dated.
 
editor said:
How's that any different from BS?

Your new Barrats home looks like a bland, cheaply constructed office block from any town, anywhere and I imagine will be unlikely to be still around in 60 years time. It contributes nothing to the townscape.

And before you go, "but what about the Barrier Block?", I'll agree that it splits opinions, but at least it is distinctive, unique and built like a tank. And if you ever get to go inside, you'll see the flats are fabulously well designed with south facing terraces all around the back.
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Were you aware that Foxton's don't 'cover' the Barrier Block? :rolleyes:
 
Nice one for the update and reminder editor - just goes to show the original plan was all about realising the development potential by sticking loads of 'luxury' flats on top of the arcade. Clearly the Arcade itself didn't need redeveloping in order to be a popular place. You have to wonder whether this lesson has actually been learned elsewhere in the borough...
 
Rushy said:
Really? It looks uncanilly like a taller version of your new home.
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Better balconies though - almost up to the standard of the Fabrik system-built blocks corner of Lilford Road and Coldharbour Lane.
 
shygirl said:
Were you aware that Foxton's don't 'cover' the Barrier Block? :rolleyes:
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I'm sure they would if anyone in there wanted to sell. I just checked on Zoopla and nothing available. Which is not too surprising - there must be a limited number of rtb in there and those probably prefer their capacious flats with south facing patios to any shoe box at double the price elsewhere!
 
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