I’ll believe you but I suspect there maybe more to this, nonetheless if it is misinformation then it is the sort of thing that will happen when entitled groups get together with those in authority to impose schemes with no transparency.
yes for sure there’s a lot to go at.....
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its not that simple, for example. I know a working class council tenant who takes the view that all car owners should fill out a form, if their reasons for owning a car are not judged valid their car should be towed and scrapped, he is not big on empathy however, being a former biker who used to do 100+ on the public roads for the lols. Another guy is a former green candidate for Southwark and he thinks it’s not fit for purpose because it just moves traffic to different places, he laughed knowingly when I told him about the alleged free pass. Most people I speak to are w/c and they definitely feel the m/c TfL and council are taking the piss. I remember the Loughborough closures caused a similar divide with local long time working class “green“ sustainable transport types i know saying it was about putting up a barrier between roads north and south of coldharbour,
Yes, there will be some (essential) journeys that are longer as a result, and there will be an increase in pollution related to those specific journeys, although generally in both cases the increase will be fairly marginal. However this is in exchange for a general overall decrease in the number of journeys made and the net effect is a decrease in pollution (and congestion, meaning that maybe some of those essential journeys actually become quicker). Not everyone believes that's what really happens, and some people think that it'll overly concentrate pollution on main roads, and that's what a lot of the argument on this thread has been about. People like me who do believe it is likely to work, are of the opinion that the net benefit makes it all worth it. That's based on the fact that variations of this kind of scheme have been being implemented across europe, the uk and london for quite some time, and most of the available evidence is that they seem to work quite well. Regardless of whether these schemes really work as intended... If anyone tries to tell you it's done kind of wacky untested new idea, that's simply not true.
Dogs really are an environmental disaster.I dont get it, why do they need anpr, fines for non compliance etc if it’s access all areas. I’m asking because a woman I know walks dogs for a living and she told me it’s caused much grief because she is picking up/dropping off dogs in the oval triangle and the dogs are spending more time in the van than the park
OK all points to consider, as I said I am not here for an argument,
...... well reading your past posts it seems you are the man with all the answers so no point arguing,
Not trolling but In a climate and air quality crisis why are peoples dogs being driven to be walked? Theres Larkhall Park to the south, Vauxhall to the NW and Kennington to the NE. Nowhere in the Oval triangle is more than 10 minutes walk from a green space where a dog can be exercised.
That doesn’t make any sense
Makes perfect sense to me. Please explain what you're struggling with.
first off thank you, my dog is pleased to know she is not a problem to be solved, and does not travel in motorised transport unless absolutely necessary. Gramsci and Teuchter have covered some of the main reasons in their posts quote below.
in fact the person I spoke to is an employee rather than the business owner....before the covid there were many enterprising dog walkers who did not use vans, these have mostly vanished now, I guess because people furloughed now have more time and less cash so dog walking services are no longer required. Difficult for these guys to make a living just by dog walking, a lot are students, or topping up income from other gig economy employment or family income where partners are in low paid work, or to maintain a level of financial independence from their partner.
the van element means more dogs can be walked, more dogs means more income, a lot of these operations are not going to make you a millionaire,. I spoke to a dog walker about the possibility of going electric but it’s not viable, the outlay would be huge, also it would need expensIve modification because you can’t just stick a load of dogs in the back of a van and hope for the best. backrow mentions the number of parks available this ok in theory, but local issues exist Vauxhall’s looked out of commision last time I was there, Kennington is not great because it’s cramped and operating as a giant pizza plaza atm. Since I had my dog (5 years) the number of dogs has increased, i don’t know why....companionship, fashion, prestige maybe ? and the covid has seen an even greater increase in numbers. All this is before one considers the pet industry, grooming, plastic toys, fancy food and even apparel....it’s a can of worms for sure.
At a guess I’d say satnavs haven’t updated yet or people are ignoring signs.
Yes, it doesn't indicate a problem unless it persists beyond the initial weeks.
