Brixton Liveable Neighbourhood and LTN schemes - improvements for pedestrians and cyclists

[edcraw]

Not a single car on the pavements anywhere near where I walk, everything is on the street rather than the pavement. I’ll keep an eye out but I walk everywhere and generally don’t see this

For someone so concerned about the impact of LTNs on people with disabilities it's v weird not to be aware of this issue.

Transport Secretary announces plans to make pavements accessible for all

Government launches consultation on pavement parking.

www.gov.uk

 

[chowce5382]

For someone so concerned about the impact of LTNs on people with disabilities it's v weird not to be aware of this issue.

Transport Secretary announces plans to make pavements accessible for all

Government launches consultation on pavement parking.

www.gov.uk

As I said, I don’t see if near me. I’m aware that cars do sometimes park on pavements, just saying that in my area of brixton it’s not a habitual issue. Possibly we have wider roads and therefore enough space for cars to park on both sides and there be enough space for others to drive

 

[liquidindian]

What about ships, see any of those?

 

[BigTom]

It's much worse outside of London. But still see it in London. Took this the other week.

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Specifically illegal in London but elsewhere is only illegal to drive on a pavement, never mind that a parked car clearly drove on and will be driven off the pavement, you can't prosecute.

No idea if any prosecutions happen in London really though but outside you have to be fully obstructing the pavement for it to be an offence.

Law needs changing and has been talked about for many years.

 

[Rushy]

Can someone link to an article about recent rises in pollution? Worrying that this is happening despite ULEZ. Or is it different category of pollutants?

ETA It seems that the increase observed was pre-ULEZ.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Tbh, LTNs have been so few and far between i wouldn't have expected an impact on pollution.

 

[liquidindian]

The "increase in pollution" is a return to the mean caused by people leaving the house again, nothing more.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Can someone link to an article about recent rises in pollution? Worrying that this is happening despite ULEZ. Or is it different category of pollutants?

ETA It seems that the increase observed was pre-ULEZ.

There hasn't been any opposition to the ULEZ from the usual suspects because it is meaningless. A Range Rover Evoque is compliant.

 

[thebackrow]

Every Sunday in Brixton

 

[Not a Vet]

The original legal challenge appeal fund has stalled at £11775 out of the £14500 needed. Yet more legal challenges are being brought. Are they all being done on a no win, no fee basis?

 

[alex_]

The original legal challenge appeal fund has stalled at £11775 out of the £14500 needed. Yet more legal challenges are being brought. Are they all being done on a no win, no fee basis?

Buy this isn’t the kind of case damages would be awarded in is it ?

 

[sleaterkinney]

Not in London.

On the above comment which I assume is from Facebook or something similar, we’ll look at each order as and when it’s made and make a decision on whether/how to challenge based on the merits of that order. As they are all individual then you have to take an individual approach

Where?. And by whom?

 

[edcraw]

Someone really should tell Tim Briggs not to start a Tweet with an @:

 

[edcraw]

UPDATE: according to someone who was at the meeting the reason is that they are still analysing the data, staff shortages bing one of the issues, and purdah for the elections starts soon. Seems a bit of a conflict that the chairman of Streatham Conservatives is also the vice chair of Streatham Action and putting his own spin on things.

Looks like no decision on Tulse Hill or Streaham Hill LTNs until after the local elections.

 

[edcraw]

Fascists eh chowce5382?


Meanwhile a nice positive thread (& call to action at the end).

 

[thebackrow]

OneLambeth were outraged that some councillors live in the wards they represent and have supported improvements to them. Dulwich Onesies (now calling themselves 'Votethemout') are being outraged that the Dulwich Village councillors DONT live in the LTN (whilst simultaneously being outraged that the council leader does.

).

 

[toblerone3]

21 out of the 27 Hackney Low Traffic Neighbourhoods have now been been made permanent. One was abandoned and a decision is still awaited on 5.

 

[Cat Fan]

UPDATE: according to someone who was at the meeting the reason is that they are still analysing the data, staff shortages bing one of the issues, and purdah for the elections starts soon. Seems a bit of a conflict that the chairman of Streatham Conservatives is also the vice chair of Streatham Action and putting his own spin on things.

Looks like no decision on Tulse Hill or Streaham Hill LTNs until after the local elections.

That's interesting. Streatham Hill LTN has been one of the most graffitied from what I can see.

 

[edcraw]

That's interesting. Streatham Hill LTN has been one of the most graffitied from what I can see.

Streatham Hill, Tulse Hill & Leander all had pretty bad graffiti. Suspect it was only a few individuals. Not sure its caused any delays in the process though, not at this strange at least.

 

[edcraw]

You really do need to ask why no graphic designers seem to oppose LTNs?

 

[Winot]

‘genius’

 

[Ryan2468]

Thank you, userwithlotsofnumbers.

 

[editor]

I'm really fed up with anti-LTN people trying to blame everything on LTNs. Like, for example, how 'Stella' insists that the state of the Network Rail owned arches is somehow the fault of LTNs (see comments):

In photos: the absolute state of the Brixton Arches on Atlantic Road, seven years after refurbishment plans were announced

Back in February 2015, urban75 broke the story that Network Rail was going to redevelop all the arches in Atlantic Road, Brixton, with businesses being given notice to quit. Despite a huge communit…

www.brixtonbuzz.com

 

[thebackrow]

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I'm really fed up with anti-LTN people trying to blame everything on LTNs. Like, for example, how 'Stella' insists that the state of the Network Rail owned arches is somehow the fault of LTNs (see comments):

In photos: the absolute state of the Brixton Arches on Atlantic Road, seven years after refurbishment plans were announced

Back in February 2015, urban75 broke the story that Network Rail was going to redevelop all the arches in Atlantic Road, Brixton, with businesses being given notice to quit. Despite a huge communit…

www.brixtonbuzz.com

I think that’s Dave’s partners name so either they’re as bad as each other or it’s just yet another Dave comment account (Writing style suggests it probably is).

 

[snowy_again]

They won’t be happy with the High Court.

 

[edcraw]

Love Lambeth

Judgement re-confirms the High Court's decision that due regard of equalities impacts had been taken

love.lambeth.gov.uk

Not a surprise. What a waste of time and money.

Wonder if OneLambeth will have to pay any costs.

 

[mbyrde12]

They won’t be happy with the High Court.

Nor the Court of Appeal. Wonder whether they will go up another notch.

 

[Winot]

Nor the Court of Appeal. Wonder whether they will go up another notch.

Unlikely to get permission to appeal to Supreme Court unless there’s a particularly knotty point of law to iron out.

 

[thebackrow]

Nor the Court of Appeal. Wonder whether they will go up another notch.

Surely not.

…We're going to court to ask the council to follow legislation which was put in place to protect the rights of those who aren't as able to protect themselves. Whatever the court decides, I'll accept it. This isn't anti-LTN for the sake of it.

 

[mbyrde12]

Unlikely to get permission to appeal to Supreme Court unless there’s a particularly knotty point of law to iron out.

One Lambeth's statement on their FB group seems to think the judgement effectively 'reduces PSED to zero' so imagine that's what they are going on