I Never said I was Black! And I too live in Coldharbour Ward. If your default setting is seeing me as Black because I said 'our' town then it says so much about your attitudes to the Black people of Coldharbour Ward.IMHO. Moreover, in Guinness Trust estate , in Coldharbour Ward, I hear the landlords evicted 400 black people- rent payers, not squatters- and are now filling the vacant properties with white people? Have you heard about this?
Brixton is a village and local businesses need to ensure they are engaged with the local community.
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I'm NOT BLACK! Nor am I Racist. With the exception of a couple of offy's on Coldharbour Lane we dont really spend our money with Black biz. Stop it.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
Why are you racialising an economic issue?
Where did I say that you were black ?
I merely mentioned that your agenda was transparent.
Trolling race issues is low eye doc.
Find yourself a more constructive hobby.
Only just read the whole thread. Doesn't need a lot of thought. Jasper's a self-aggrandizing fool and if having attacked local businesses for not handing his organisation cash on demand, he and his colleagues don't see his position is untenable, I'd be amazed if they get any support from anyone else.
I'm not local and I don't know any of the people involved. It's just an impartial, commonsense opinion.
Oh, and the allegations of racism earier in the thread - really?
I'm not local and I don't know any of the people involved. It's just an impartial, commonsense opinion.
Oh, and the allegations of racism earier in the thread - really?
There's a variation of Godwin's Law which applies to many threads about Brixton. Seems to be coming to the fore now.
Brixton is our town, no matter what colour we are. Thirty years ago its dominant culture was Jamaican (even if, even then, white people were more numerous) ; it now has more Hispanic and African people and businesses, and there's a new generation of people of Jamaican heritage. I think it's much better for being more diverse, just as it's better for jerk chicken, patties and dub.
Change often does breed resentment, and sometimes that resentment is justified. No one denies that there is prejudice, or that some employers are prejudiced in their hiring practices. It's not just a Brixton thing.
There are conflicting views of what Brixton should be. Should it be a melting-pot, with lots of different cultures working, living, working and partying together- a place that will absorb each new wave of migrants as it did the Windrush generation? Should it be London's Jamaica-town, Kingston-upon-Effra? Or should it be the home of the capital's obsession with exotic foodieisim?
It should, of course, be all three and more, and if Brixton Splash means anything it means celebrating the many different faces of Brixton. This year, being the 50th anniversary of Jamaica's independence, is as good a year as any to highlight the Jamaica connection (for which us non-Jamaican Brixtonians are very grateful) so long as it doesn't somehow imply that in Brixton, Jamaican heritage trumps all the others.
Brixton is our town, no matter what colour we are. Thirty years ago its dominant culture was Jamaican (even if, even then, white people were more numerous) ; it now has more Hispanic and African people and businesses, and there's a new generation of people of Jamaican heritage. I think it's much better for being more diverse, just as it's better for jerk chicken, patties and dub.
Change often does breed resentment, and sometimes that resentment is justified. No one denies that there is prejudice, or that some employers are prejudiced in their hiring practices. It's not just a Brixton thing.
There are conflicting views of what Brixton should be. Should it be a melting-pot, with lots of different cultures working, living, working and partying together- a place that will absorb each new wave of migrants as it did the Windrush generation? Should it be London's Jamaica-town, Kingston-upon-Effra? Or should it be the home of the capital's obsession with exotic foodieisim?
It should, of course, be all three and more, and if Brixton Splash means anything it means celebrating the many different faces of Brixton. This year, being the 50th anniversary of Jamaica's independence, is as good a year as any to highlight the Jamaica connection (for which us non-Jamaican Brixtonians are very grateful) so long as it doesn't somehow imply that in Brixton, Jamaican heritage trumps all the others.
urbanspaceman
Well-Known Member
You said: "Black folks are being sidelined out of OUR town." So I, not unreasonably, connected the possessive pronoun "our" to the prior noun "folks". And since "folks" is modified by "black", a valid interpretation of this sentence is to infer that the author is black.
You claim that this "says so much about your attitudes to the Black people of Coldharbour Ward". I disagree - I think it says rather more about my attitudes towards grammar and syntax.
I am not a troll. I live in Brixton . I am not a racist . Engage the debate as to what LJ raised. So He's 'racist' because he said it as he saw and I'm 'racist' because I dare to agree with him? Even though he's Black and I'm white! And you call me divisive?! LOl!
Still no response on the Guinness evicting 400 black people and replacing them with whites. Put in the context of LJ's comments I thought the many detractors would have something more substantial to say. Any, I have to head back to work- lunch over.
Please dont Bull Shit me with your ramblings. You dig? Lol!
No, I'm calling you out for trolling and racism because you're spreading lies and disinformation.
These specifically.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
Why are you racialising an economic issue?
editor
hiraethified
It wasn't just '400 blacks' that were evicted from that estate, neither are all the incomers entirely white. Once again, you're clumsily trying to inflate an economic issue into a race issue. Or just trolling.
Educate yourself here:
http://www.urban75.org/blog/guinness-trust-somerleyton-rd-brixton-fights-the-landlords/
http://www.urban75.org/blog/guinness-trust-estate-campaign-continues-in-brixton-video/
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
Some people never learn, such people are commonly known as idiots.
Others pretend to learn and then go elsewhere to throw a hissy fit about those that have helped them to understand the issue, such people are commonly known as fucking idiots.
editor
hiraethified
On a more positive note, I heard that around 50 local unemployed local people have been taken on and trained to provide security for the event.
That's the kind of news that Splash should be generating rather than all the negative publicity being generated by Jasper's antics.
That's the kind of news that Splash should be generating rather than all the negative publicity being generated by Jasper's antics.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
There's nothing on his blog or Twitter. How has this been verified?
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Lots of local Asian convenient stores countrywide don't employ white people either.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Ah right fair enough.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
Is this thread an indication of how Lee Jasper has operated more generally?
This has to rank as about the most crass and unprofessional approach to fundraising and sponsorship for a community event I've ever seen.
As for why businesses won't sponsor them... well for starters, sponsors don't even merit a link to their website from the brixton splash website, which would instantly count me out.
This has to rank as about the most crass and unprofessional approach to fundraising and sponsorship for a community event I've ever seen.
As for why businesses won't sponsor them... well for starters, sponsors don't even merit a link to their website from the brixton splash website, which would instantly count me out.
editor
hiraethified
I've posted the official statement here:
http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/lee-jasper-resigns-as-chair-of-brixton-splash.296553/
http://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/lee-jasper-resigns-as-chair-of-brixton-splash.296553/
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
Couldn't agree more.
The only question that remains is did he actually resign off his own back or was he forced to resign.
Whichever it was, at least it should help to repair the damage he has done.
Lee Japser
Well-Known Member
May thanks ...your advice was appreciated as you can see.Thanks Lee. Where do I send the consultancy invoice?
Alo Licentia!
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Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I see Lee Jasper has resigned.
I hope the issue of Pat is not now forgotten.
LJ says here that Jo will take care of this. As LJ says Jo Birch-Phaure will deal with this I assume the board of Brixton Splash have agreed this in principle and will not now say it was just LJ agreeing to Pat being credited on the BS website.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Dear Jo,
now Lee Jasper has resigned I hope you will ensure Pat is credited on the Brixton Splash site as agreed by Lee Jasper here on this thread.
Are you going to ensure this is done?
editor
hiraethified
I hope you're going to keep posting here on other topics. This board likes people with opinions.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
oh boy
but if you can provide actual evidence of your statement I'll happily go peruse it as a resident of said estate.
Enjoy your lunch.
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