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The Bell and Brisket - Pop Brixton

1x Filthy Fries
1x The King (Toasted Bagels)
1x The Lord Rupert (Time Out top 30 Best Dishes) (Toasted Bagels)

All good, very good tbf!

The King is a traditional salt beef/pickle but the Lord Rupert fuck me it's seriously dandy!

Hard to describe but you get the king plus the best char grilled burger with big mac special sauce you've never imagined nor could imagine having a serious party in your mouth flavour on top.

I for one welcome our new salt beef bagel overlords :thumbs:
Tried The King for lunch. Bloody tasty it was too!
 
This ludicrous trend of charging premium prices for food products ironically described as "dirty" this and "filthy" that is so fucking tedious.

Oh, and it's £10 for a bagel burger and chips. Small pack of chips is a whopping £3.50.

You need a dose of reality :eek:

10 years ago I would order 2 curries, plus a nan and rice from Khans for just over £10!

Now its £20 plus :mad:

I could get kebab and chips for under a fiver now it's £6-8 for a chicken shish alone.

As you don't eat meat you're a bit removed from how Brixton takeaways tried initially to drop quality to maintain a price point. Fuck me it was bad!

The Bombay Inn has just up'd prices by £1.5-£2 per main dish thank god! It's now cheaper but better quality than all except Khans.

If it's £6-8 for a Shish kebab the same for a burger is well spot on tbf.

If you want to go all....

Deliveroo!!!!

Costs you £2.50 but also...... 15% to the business per order. Wonder why everything you order is £2 more expensive in Brixton via Deliveroo????
 
You need a dose of reality :eek:
I can get a HUGE portion of ace chips for £1.60 from Jimmy's. There's easily enough for two. If you think £3.50 for the piddly pack you'll get from the trendy Bell and Brisket at Pop Brixton represents better value, it's you who needs a bumper dose of reality.
 
You need a dose of reality :eek:

10 years ago I would order 2 curries, plus a nan and rice from Khans for just over £10!

Now its £20 plus :mad:

I could get kebab and chips for under a fiver now it's £6-8 for a chicken shish alone.

As you don't eat meat you're a bit removed from how Brixton takeaways tried initially to drop quality to maintain a price point. Fuck me it was bad!

The Bombay Inn has just up'd prices by £1.5-£2 per main dish thank god! It's now cheaper but better quality than all except Khans.

If it's £6-8 for a Shish kebab the same for a burger is well spot on tbf.

If you want to go all....

Deliveroo!!!!

Costs you £2.50 but also...... 15% to the business per order. Wonder why everything you order is £2 more expensive in Brixton via Deliveroo????
Yes, good ingredients cost money. As does paying staff even minimum wage. However some posters on here will shout for cheap food, which is high quality, with staff paid LLW. Doesn't really work.
 
https://m.facebook.com/Fox-Bar-Brixton-1651971438452793/

More soho house type dark bars. Not quite love muscle which I think used to be in that space.
I think that Substation South was in the basement - but there was originally a ground floor level as well (maybe in the days when it was called "The Vox" - pre 1994 or so).

I did go in there when there was a sort of charity do in between Vox and Substation period.

V familiar with the Sub Station period - and had my first ever experience of being refused admission when they had a Suzie Krueger night. For which I felt retrospectively grateful in view of the ghastly advertising she subsequently indulged in - I'm sure I don't have to elaborate.

Sounds like the Fox Bar has more in common with the Fox on the Hill than Suzie Krueger though.
 
Tried The King for lunch. Bloody tasty it was too!

'think I may have made a booboo

Just got a king and an Old

well..... the king really is something else'!



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should sponser this bagel :thumbs:

Please note that this is a meat bagel from a meat bagel shop......

If you would like fried potatoes in the form of chips.......
 
I heard a while back that the Brixton branch was Brindisa's worst performer.
The food is good in the restaurant there but the choice isn't. A few bits and pieces aside it's mainly various toppings on bread. Not really a choice I often want for dinner.

Pulpo will be great to have in Brixton, ace restaurants.
 
The food is good in the restaurant there but the choice isn't. A few bits and pieces aside it's mainly various toppings on bread. Not really a choice I often want for dinner.

Pulpo will be great to have in Brixton, ace restaurants.
Pulpo - for the common people.
 
Looks like Brindisa are leaving Brixton and Polpo are taking over the units to use as restaurant solely.

It appears that they've gone. I think this is really significant in terms of the debate on gentrification and it's not good news. Brindisa might have been a shop for the gentry but is was a shop, as well as a bar. Pulpo are applying for planning permission for a change of use from a shop plus eating and drinking to just eating and drinking. I liked Brindisa; even the controversial cheese sandwich. But with the benefit of hindsight, I'm not surprised it's gone - both the bar and the shop rarely seemed busy and the range of stuff in the shop while excellent, was limited and relatively expensive.

What this means, in terms of the gentrification debate, is that what's happening isn't even like East Dulwich, where at least there's still some sort of commercial mix. In a sense it's even worse, in that it suggests the commercial pressure is for central Brixton to become just a gigantic food court that over time will be even more dominated by the chains.
 
It appears that they've gone. I think this is really significant in terms of the debate on gentrification and it's not good news. Brindisa might have been a shop for the gentry but is was a shop, as well as a bar. Pulpo are applying for planning permission for a change of use from a shop plus eating and drinking to just eating and drinking. I liked Brindisa; even the controversial cheese sandwich. But with the benefit of hindsight, I'm not surprised it's gone - both the bar and the shop rarely seemed busy and the range of stuff in the shop while excellent, was limited and relatively expensive.

What this means, in terms of the gentrification debate, is that what's happening isn't even like East Dulwich, where at least there's still some sort of commercial mix. In a sense it's even worse, in that it suggests the commercial pressure is for central Brixton to become just a gigantic food court that over time will be even more dominated by the chains.
I just don't think the new crowd are as moneyed as people think. (Yes, yes, relative to certain groups they are very very privileged. Most deprived etc...). Largely they are very young and on salaries below London median (I get to verify quite a lot of people's salaries).

Cornercopia was a great restaurant and reasonable value. They were able to do well when Brixton Village in the early days was mostly full of older local folk and families. When the village visitors became younger, the punters spent less on food. I doubt they would spend much on premium deli take home type foods like Brindisa offer, even if they would occasionally go there for dinner. Certainly when I'm carrying out maintenance at flats lived in by young professionals I'm not struck by luxury food habits. More like lots of studenty half empty cupboards.
 
I just don't think the new crowd are as moneyed as people think. (Yes, yes, relative to certain groups they are very very privileged. Most deprived etc...). Largely they are very young and on salaries below London median (I get to verify quite a lot of people's salaries.

Yes. Young media workers get paid sweet fuck all (20-25k). I suspect a lot of the clientele in these places are drinking/eating in there on credit.
 
I went into Brindisa once looked around and bought a sliver of manchego which is my favourite cheese. It was incredibly expensive, not just expensive but kind of silly (can't remember the numbers now but it was multiples of what a bit of manchego costs in a supermarket) . I think that might be what did for them here, that plus the fact that they only had a very small number of things for sale in that big space.
 
Okay. As we were. It seems I was a bit previous discussing the demise of Brindisa. It looked very closed this morning when I went past. But this evening both the shop and the bar were open, with plenty of custom in the latter. However, in the shop I was the only customer and all I bought was a tin of sardines (they're great). I spoke to the staff about what I called 'rumours' and they said they knew nothing about any planned closure. Nor could they explain the why there was a planning application from Polpo for the Brindisa premises (see link here). But as we found out with Rosie's Cafe, the staff can sometimes be the last to know.

(Correction. The planning application is actually being submitted by Brindisa on behalf of Polpo, who are the proposed tenants)

I think my point about the nature of gentrification in Brixton still stands.
 
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Mama Lan which started life as one of the original brixton village food spots has recently opened just off Brick Lane and is about to open in Croydon. 6 restaurants now
 
Why did the owner of the Phoenix Cafe sell out?
He didn't have planning permission for the new Phoenix restaurant at the Dirty Burger site and a retrospective application was turned down. He sold it as a retail unit to Soho House and they used permitted development rules (ie, no planning permission needed) to change it to a restaurant. It was a new permitted development right which he could have used himself but was given really bad planning advice, I think.

Doesn't he still own the original site next to book mongers which is being developed?
 
I just don't think the new crowd are as moneyed as people think. (Yes, yes, relative to certain groups they are very very privileged. Most deprived etc...). Largely they are very young and on salaries below London median (I get to verify quite a lot of people's salaries).

Cornercopia was a great restaurant and reasonable value. They were able to do well when Brixton Village in the early days was mostly full of older local folk and families. When the village visitors became younger, the punters spent less on food. I doubt they would spend much on premium deli take home type foods like Brindisa offer, even if they would occasionally go there for dinner. Certainly when I'm carrying out maintenance at flats lived in by young professionals I'm not struck by luxury food habits. More like lots of studenty half empty cupboards.

I used to go to Cornercopia a lot and it was great value - but stopped when the hordes moved in and have never gone back. Similarly Casa Sibilla.

The guys from A&C Continental also said their custom had been gradually sliding over the past few years despite the perception that Brixton is full of wealthy incomers. Bella told me that one of the problems was that all the stuff they used to offer uniquely (eg De Cecco pasta) is now routinely available at supermarkets.
 
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