Easy win though innit.
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Easy win though innit.
existentialist
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So what? You look to be constructing a rather shoddy strawman there.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Traditional for bonfire night mind
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
And you could also argue - I think I would argue - a dangerous precedent.
Treacle Toes
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Try hards trying to defend Eltham's rep is fucking comical. 
The stats for Eltham and Norwood aren't that different at all actually but do waffle on
https://maps.met.police.uk/SysSiteA...n-greater-london-from-april-2010---march-2016
...and as for this silly reference to Tower Hamlets. No one has said that there isn't racism there. People suggested places these arseholes could be from because we tuned into their accents. environment and attitudes ffs.
Most people identified South London/suburbs...oh look we were right! Eternal condemnation that we didn't divine the fucking street and door number. On top of that, spectacular lack of knowledge about these areas if you are talking about miles between areas...there is a lot of green space, gardens, woods and common land.
Additionally...when you have an area or borough where certain demographics are more widely represented, feel strong, they are far more likely to feel emboldened to report crime, which includes hate crime. This is obvious.
https://maps.met.police.uk/SysSiteA...n-greater-london-from-april-2010---march-2016
The stats for Eltham and Norwood aren't that different at all actually but do waffle on
https://maps.met.police.uk/SysSiteA...n-greater-london-from-april-2010---march-2016
...and as for this silly reference to Tower Hamlets. No one has said that there isn't racism there. People suggested places these arseholes could be from because we tuned into their accents. environment and attitudes ffs.
Most people identified South London/suburbs...oh look we were right! Eternal condemnation that we didn't divine the fucking street and door number.
On top of that, spectacular lack of knowledge about these areas if you are talking about miles between areas...there is a lot of green space, gardens, woods and common land.Additionally...when you have an area or borough where certain demographics are more widely represented, feel strong, they are far more likely to feel emboldened to report crime, which includes hate crime. This is obvious.
https://maps.met.police.uk/SysSiteA...n-greater-london-from-april-2010---march-2016
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I should have made it clearer that my grandparents' house was the one that was jerry built, not every terraced 30s job in S LondonThey are really well built terraced houses, actually, with decent sized rooms. Although small kitchens.
I’ve just deleted the rest of my post because I remembered that some scum journalists frequent this site and I don’t want to be quoted!!!
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Hardly, it's not going anywhere, it can't be claimed as a 'win'.
Athos
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Try hards trying to defend Eltham's rep is fucking comical.
The stats for Eltham and Norwood aren't that different at all actually but do waffle on
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https://maps.met.police.uk/SysSiteA...n-greater-london-from-april-2010---march-2016
...and as for this silly reference to Tower Hamlets. No one has said that there isn't racism there. People suggested places these arseholes could be from because we tuned into their accents. environment and attitudes ffs.
Most people identified South London/suburbs...oh look we were right! Eternal condemnation that we didn't divine the fucking street and door number.
Additionally...when you have an area or borough where certain demographics are more widely represented, feel strong, they are far more likely to feel emboldened to report crime, which includes hate crime. This is obvious.
https://maps.met.police.uk/SysSiteA...n-greater-london-from-april-2010---march-2016
My point wasn't to defend Eltham; it was to rebut your claim that "... it's not prejudiced to reflect personal experience and knowledge..." Because, often, that is exactly the basis of prejudice - generalising experience of specific people to wider groups (often contrary to the evidence).
Because there’s usually a class element to this kind of sneering.
Athos
Well-Known Member
Possibly, but I saw no indication that was the case here.
Well it’s not a precedent. Easy wins are what plod do. Not ACAB PoV.
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Optics
left liberal politics at its worst
Treacle Toes
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Yet magnus does just that and I have never once seen you challenge him on it and suggest it could be prejudice. You save that for me and others that don't conform to your inner vanguard circle or urbanites I will or will not challenge!
You and others here dance around him, avoid challenging him by saying he can speak for himself or tuck a little 'he's wrong on' in other posts where you go to great lengths to condescend to others.
You don't have my experience, yet you consistently question and attempt to undermine it. I suggested Eltham, I wasn't that far off...so fuck you and your prejudice quite frankly. Back to Coventry. I'll defer to you for lessons on Luton should I ever need them. ooops no I won't, I have far more consistent, honest, trusted sources.
I’m not wrong though. You claimed you identified the culprit area because of their accents but trendy Clapham or Brixton weren’t on your list there despite it transpiring that one of them is from Lambeth.
It’s a complete joke.
It’s a complete joke.
Treacle Toes
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I suggested an area you massive twit. You are a complete joke. One of them from Lambeth OMFG...does the queen know?
For a so called anti-racist you seem to spend a lot of time manufacturing arguments and twisting things people actually say to divert attention and discussion away from actual racists.
Guineveretoo
Mostly bewildered
It’s okay - I just meant on the website. It’s on the form you need to fill in.
Sixth man arrested over video of Grenfell Tower effigy being burned | Metro News
Not that it matters, their comments on the video indict them, but there were other 'colours' in the windows of the construction.
beggars belief how they could purposely construct it though, like some others have said they may have 'previous'
Not that it matters, their comments on the video indict them, but there were other 'colours' in the windows of the construction.
beggars belief how they could purposely construct it though, like some others have said they may have 'previous'
Athos
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Hang on, in my initial post with which you took issue, I said that I didn't agree with Magnus McGinty on this, and I've disagreed with him again, just a few posts above!I don't question your experience; I made the point that reliance on our experience can result in prejudice, in response to you claiming the opposite. Direct experience is only a very small part of the available information; ignoring other data in order to favour experience when forming opinons is one of the principal ways in which prejudice works. (I don't believe that you don't understand that, but realise that you wont admit it, now.)
The fact that you were almost right about Eltham doesn't prove anything; it's like somone speculating that an unidentified burgular was a Irish Traveller, and claiming that the fact they turned out to be a Gypsy meant that jumping to that (almost right) conclusion without any evidence can't have been prejudiced! Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the residents of Eltham or white people are the real victims of prejudice, my point is a more general one about how prejudice works. And how a politics which fetishises 'experience' is a useless tool in addressing it.
I love the way you always begin to engage with me, but, when the paucity of your argument becomes obvious, you do three things: first, claim you're being personally attacked (e.g. undermined or condescended to); second you attack me with slurs (e.g. pointing to my supposed - notably undefined - prejudice); and, thirdly, to dishonestly claim that you're sending me to Coventry, when we both know you actually read and reply to my posts - you must have sent me to Coventry about a dozen times, only to respond shortly therefter!
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Read more: Teenager who threw flour and eggs at disabled woman and then boasted of attack is pictured for the first time | Metro News
This is the first picture of the teenage thug who laughed at a disabled woman as he pelted her with flour and eggs while she sat on a park bench. Cohan Semple was among a group of youths who launched the ‘despicable’ attack on the vulnerable woman and then posted a picture on social media. Semple, 18, appeared in court yesterday and admitted his part in the humiliating attack in Bury St Edmunds that caused an international outcry in July. Date: 01 NOV 2018 Location: Ipswich Youth Court. MINIMUM FEE ONLINE OR PAPER ??150.00 Cohan Semple (18) who pleaded guilty at Ipswich Youth Court to covering a woman in flour and eggs in an attack in Bury St Edmunds in July 2018. N.B: None of the other accused can be iddentified because they are under age. Cohan Semple has been unmasked as the person who posted footage on social media of the sickening egg and flour attack on a vulnerable woman (Picture: Eastnews Press Agency) Four other teenagers, who cannot be named for legal reasons because of their age, have also admitted their guilt. The court heard the boys were seen laughing and smiling next to Janice Morris, 49, after they had covered her head to toe in flour. The picture was posted on Snapchat by Semple for his group of 25 contacts to see.
Read more: Teenager who threw flour and eggs at disabled woman and then boasted of attack is pictured for the first time | Metro News
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btw, why hasn't this got traction?, disabled and sick people seem invisible.
This is the first picture of the teenage thug who laughed at a disabled woman as he pelted her with flour and eggs while she sat on a park bench. Cohan Semple was among a group of youths who launched the ‘despicable’ attack on the vulnerable woman and then posted a picture on social media. Semple, 18, appeared in court yesterday and admitted his part in the humiliating attack in Bury St Edmunds that caused an international outcry in July. Date: 01 NOV 2018 Location: Ipswich Youth Court. MINIMUM FEE ONLINE OR PAPER ??150.00 Cohan Semple (18) who pleaded guilty at Ipswich Youth Court to covering a woman in flour and eggs in an attack in Bury St Edmunds in July 2018. N.B: None of the other accused can be iddentified because they are under age. Cohan Semple has been unmasked as the person who posted footage on social media of the sickening egg and flour attack on a vulnerable woman (Picture: Eastnews Press Agency) Four other teenagers, who cannot be named for legal reasons because of their age, have also admitted their guilt. The court heard the boys were seen laughing and smiling next to Janice Morris, 49, after they had covered her head to toe in flour. The picture was posted on Snapchat by Semple for his group of 25 contacts to see.
Read more: Teenager who threw flour and eggs at disabled woman and then boasted of attack is pictured for the first time | Metro News
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btw, why hasn't this got traction?, disabled and sick people seem invisible.
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Treacle Toes
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Were there? I only saw Brown and darker brown/Black....so yeah it does matter...what did I miss?
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Treelover has to calibrate the precise degree of his right-on handwringing very carefully. These things matter...
Treacle Toes
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I don't question your experience; I made the point that reliance on our experience can result in prejudice, in response to you claiming the opposite. Direct experience is only a very small part of the available information; ignoring other data in order to favour experience when forming opinons is one of the principal ways in which prejudice works. (I don't believe that you don't understand that, but realise that you wont admit it, now.)
I love the way you always begin to engage with me, but, when the paucity of your argument becomes obvious, you do three things: first, claim you're being personally attacked (e.g. undermined or condescended to); second you attack me with slurs (e.g. pointing to my supposed - notably undefined - prejudice); and, thirdly, to dishonestly claim that you're sending me to Coventry, when we both know you actually read and reply to my posts - you must have sent me to Coventry about a dozen times, only to respond shortly therefter!
When is the last time I responded to you? Got to be months now isn't it? Despite you constantly trying to bait me into responding, there isn't pacity in my argument, there is downright apathy, sometimes amusement but mostly oh look, something more worthy of my attention and couldn't give a flying fuck because you are predictable, snake-like, wrong and utterly boring...so yes...off you go, in your most obvious and furious attempts to face-save again. That's all you have.
Treelover has to calibrate the precise degree of his right-on handwringing very carefully. These things matter...
I think you work with disabled people, like to reply to my post above.
Ffs, get off your high horse, i meant they, the perpetrators have made their feelings/views known in the audio in the video.
Athos
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Well, for instance, since this post and you 'sending me to Coventry' (again!), it was about half an hour.
Yeah, yeah, you're so apathetic and bored that you engage with the posts (until you can't), then launch into a tirade of vitriol.
I've got no need to save face, and there are plenty of examples on these boards of me putting my hands up when I've been wrong. You're the one with an ego so fragile she's unable to accept when she's made a mistake; there are numerous examples of you getting things really badly wrong, but not having the grace or integrity to admit it.
Anyway, until next time...
Treacle Toes
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No, you really did not. So no, I'll not get out of my armchair, thanks. Were there other 'colours' in the window?
Treacle Toes
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Well, for instance, since this post and you 'sending me to Coventry' (again!), it was about half an hour.
Yeah, yeah, you're so apathetic and bored that you engage with the posts (until you can't), then launch into a tirade of vitriol.
I've got no need to save face, and there are plenty of examples on these boards of me putting my hands up when I've been wrong. You're the one with an ego so fragile she's unable to accept when she's made a mistake; there are numerous examples of you getting things really badly wrong, but not having the grace or integrity to admit it.
Anyway, until next time...
Bluffing two-bit twit... the fact you come back here day after day. month after month and try this shit reflects a deep fragility in your own life I reckon. I hardly ever engage with your posts. Months lapse inbetween despite your bleating and hijinks and general fuckery in trying to garner attention. Presenting yourself as a learned, man of logic and reason, yet...there's nothing underneath, it's a farce/show/pretense. You've nothing real or personal to offer, you don't dare. Not surprising that you mention ego and getting things wrong either... you are no stranger after all. Do keep waffling though. Someone, somewhere, cares I imagine.
ginger_syn
Her Insanity laughs under pressure...👾
Perhaps these blokes should be charged with creating anger and distress on urban as well
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