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bristol indymedia: press release (pre-server seizure) (2)

Isambard said:
Ashton Court is just around the corner :cool: and there'll be Bristolites from near and far, old and new, getting together for all the fun, the pubs, the discussions, the music and hanging out together. How is someone who is maybe new to Urban and wanting to be part of the community suppoosed to feel? Are they going to have to bite their tongue not knowing whether it is safe to say their opinion in our community?

All leaves a rather nasty taste in the mouth.
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Yes, Indeed. I've been trying very hard not to comment on any of this, and this is the first thread I've commented on, in response to further trolling of BIM. I'll revert to holding my tongue.
 
munkeeunit said:
If you watch the currently active users box at the bottom of the screen you should be able to work it out, there's only two letters between the I and the S Funny how I've noticed him lurking there all afternoon while BIM was trolled. Should have maybe put the two together earlier.

Hi I**S,

Having fun?
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Get out of our forum Ern!

I got no info when i clicked on inks. It said i wasn't allowed....

and it's not in the members list...
 
butchersapron said:
Does anyone suspect that todays episodes were an IP testing exercise by Z.s mates - 'ban us for this, you do have our IPs don't you?' sort of thing - when Z. was handily at work...
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I wondered something like that, yeah. The 'I was at work' alibi doesn't really count for anything, does it.
 
Isambard said:
Ashton Court is just around the corner :cool: and there'll be Bristolites from near and far, old and new, getting together for all the fun, the pubs, the discussions, the music and hanging out together. How is someone who is maybe new to Urban and wanting to be part of the community suppoosed to feel? Are they going to have to bite their tongue not knowing whether it is safe to say their opinion in our community?

All leaves a rather nasty taste in the mouth.
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well, nasty taste or no, we can't shy away from sorting this all out. it's out in the open and we can't afford to ignore it.
 
WTF??? :confused: :eek:

I clicked on "inks" and got:
fat hamster, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?

If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.
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Click on anyone else's name at the bottom of the forum, and you get their user profile.
 
Isambard said:
Ashton Court is just around the corner :cool: and there'll be Bristolites from near and far, old and new, getting together for all the fun, the pubs, the discussions, the music and hanging out together. How is someone who is maybe new to Urban and wanting to be part of the community suppoosed to feel?
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there you go - post encouraging messages to newbies :D
 
@ B-KRS and BA: No we CAN'T ignore it!
That wasn't an appeal to be fluffy and "we're all friends" kind of bullshit.
You think I'm a hippy or something? ;)

I meant nasty taste in the mouth in that Urban is a community and people feel to a greater or lesser extent, safe in that community. Sadly, one individual and associated mates / other narks has done his best to undermine that feeling of community over the last while.

The only grass I want to see at Ashton Court is the fields where I'm enjoying the company of Bristolites.
 
Isambard said:
@ B-KRS and BA: No we CAN'T ignore it!
That wasn't an appeal to be fluffy and "we're all friends" kind of bullshit.
You think I'm a hippy or something? ;)

I meant nasty taste in the mouth in that Urban is a community and people feel to a greater or lesser extent, safe in that community. Sadly, one individual and associated mates / other narks has done his best to undermine that feeling of community over the last while.

The only grass I want to see at Ashton Court is the fields where I'm enjoying the company of Bristolites.
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Wrong end of the stick there mate! I think we were both agreeing with you.
 
Isambard said:
The only grass I want to see at Ashton Court is the fields where I'm enjoying the company of Bristolites.
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Really?? :eek:

salad--combo-spliff.jpg


;)
 
I'm pretty sure its obvious who has been disrputing the newswire.

The comments and 'spoof' artiicles in the name of Zaskar started not long after 2 posters named 'head' and 'neck' started posting.

I think you can find their identities far closer to home (well urban 75) if you have a browse of a certain other activists forum on this site...

For those slow on the uptake...

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=119593
 
in other words, you are more than happy to employ innuendo and smears 0 the very things you accused other people of doing.

marvellous :)

name names or stfu :)
 
bristle-krs said:
in other words, you are more than happy to employ innuendo and smears 0 the very things you accused other people of doing.

marvellous :)

name names or stfu :)
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As many people here were quick to jump to conclusions and make smears about other things.

Funny how what goes around comes around isn't it?
:)
 
i think you'll find that if you actually *read* all the threads in question, that is not what has happened, except when badnewswade, zaskar and your good self have chosen to do it.
 
Serotonin said:
I think you can find their identities far closer to home (well urban 75) if you have a browse of a certain other activists forum on this site...

For those slow on the uptake...

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=119593
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I'm not usually "slow on the uptake" but I've read the thread you linked to and I haven't a clue who or what you're talking about.

Who exactly do you think is posting on BIM in Zaskar's name? And who are "neck", "head" and "tongue"? :confused:
 
Judging by this bizarre admission in a comment moved to our hidden section.

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Auote: "by anonymous, ian onions and head
Hidden by imcvol with code: Policy Violation
Notes: (apeinme) off-topic. "It's great being Zaskar. This identity transplant thing could really work for us. To my knowledge onions was a faceless, low grade beurocrat of some kind and anonymous used to be an unemployable 90s casualty in a council house whose career involved wiring up circuit boards the wrong way and suffering from low grade mental ilnesses for money. Head was of course the famous activist hero of the working class Richard Head. But that was before the ID transplant operation that tranformed their lives. All these people - and more- are delighted to find that they are now international man of mystery and well known secret agent Zaskar (agent "Z"), and not the sad losers they were before the operation, which involved disagreeing with BIM and then being told they are Zaskar. You too could be an international man of mystery and suspense, just disagree with BIM about the rock dropping incident and your identity will vanish. You will find yourself surrounded by computer monitors and ready meals, with a disintigrating house of your very own and a vendetta / grudge from hell against BIM and indeed all activists which results in you being an evil traitor to the community. You'll also be required to stamp on kittens, drown puppies, strangle bunny rabits and pop the heads of baby mice. That is all."
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The troll who spent 4 hours yesterday disrupting BIM with abuse and drivel has private knowledge of Zaskar's home.


"You will find yourself surrounded by computer monitors and ready meals, with a disintigrating house of your very own."


There are only 3 other people / user names who I think have this kind of private knowledge, judging by their thick as thieves previous attempts to bring BIM to it's knees by an outpouring of unrelenting idiocy earlier this year / and the turn of last year. Other attempts to bring other IMC's to their knees have been made, but only by Nazi's. In Bristol it's been done by a quartet of total idiots.

Zaskar, Badnewswade, Inks, Serotonin.

All of these usernames should be distributed around the net as undertaking actions intended to destroy the indymedia project, as have nazi's and fascists elsewhere.
 
munkeeunit said:
The troll who spent 4 hours yesterday disrupting BIM with abuse and drivel has private knowledge of Zaskar's home.


"You will find yourself surrounded by computer monitors and ready meals, with a disintigrating house of your very own."
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Tbh, that sounds like several people's home to me. :D / :rolleyes:
 
Hmmm. Guess so.

But if the idiot quartet continue disrupting BIM in the lead up to the G8 summit, then the only conclusion left to reach is that they are intent on disrupting BIM in the lead up to the G8 summit.

That is the mud which will stick.

And these usernames will be distributed to around 10,000 inboxes by myself alone.

If the disruption continues that is.
 
Well, this is all getting rather nasty and silly.

I am dumfounded by the stupididy and prejudice displayed by many.

I have never wanted to bring any imc to it's knees. BIMC are quite capable of that without assistance. I DID have a rather daft spat with Tomas Rawlings over his promotional activities on the site. Even then I always posted as 'zaskar'. I have made no secret of this.

BIM it should be noted have often behaved rather bizzarely as they cling to this idea that some mysterious group are 'persecuting' them. What nonsense.

Munkeeunit continues to cling to his alternate view of the world and me. Odd.

If I was all these ridiculous things I would have shut down the site ages ago wouldnt I ? I had moderator access for about a year and even without that the site is about as open to hacking as it is possible to be.

Some of the BIM volunteers, and some of the posters are the sites problems, but it aint me. I merely have the temerity to be guilty of thought, dissent and the desire to debate.

I suspect none of what I say matters one iota. Certain people, including mr unit have made theri mind up and it fits with tyhier rather odd view of the world to think 'baddies' are out to get them at every turn.

In actual fact I am merely a person who has had a brush with death that left him hardly able to walk. I started filmamking to keep me busy during a protracted (now nearly complete) recovery. My Doc told me if I wanted to get well I had to get out and just walk walk walk. So I walked around with all my heavy camera stuff making films at a furious rate. I now have the bug and am respected in many quarters for my new found skills. Again I expect those who are so sure of certain 'facts' will discount this as more lies. Whatever.... I expect many will use this info against me.... oh well.....

It is bizarre and sad that many other motivations have been attributed to me.
 
munkeeunit said:
Hmmm. Guess so.

But if the idiot quartet continue disrupting BIM in the lead up to the G8 summit, then the only conclusion left to reach is that they are intent on disrupting BIM in the lead up to the G8 summit.

That is the mud which will stick.

And these usernames will be distributed to around 10,000 inboxes by myself alone.

If the disruption continues that is.
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You complete and utter fool.
 
munkeeunit said:
Hmmm. Guess so.

But if the idiot quartet continue disrupting BIM in the lead up to the G8 summit, then the only conclusion left to reach is that they are intent on disrupting BIM in the lead up to the G8 summit.

That is the mud which will stick.

And these usernames will be distributed to around 10,000 inboxes by myself alone.

If the disruption continues that is.
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If they really are quite as moronic as you suggest (-which IMO seems to be the case!), I would imagine the timing in relation to the G8 is probably mere coincidence.

The way I see it, it's just a personal vendetta being obsessively played out (by both 'sides', I think). i.e: Zaskar et al jumped at the chance to disrupt BIM by squealing to the police, and BIM which is no doubt loving the (-fully deserved, IMO) public flogging that Zaskar et al are receiving here and elsewhere.

I still think Zaskar is fatuous and disruptive; but IMO, both sides of this dispute need their fucking heads banging together. :rolleyes: :p
 
munkeeunit said:
As I said,

*if* the disruption continues.

I will act upon this, in this manner.
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That really is a pathetic and pointless threat. I say it will reflect rahter poorly on you if you do this, even more than the threat already has.

I am not responsible for any of the current 'disruption' and am none of the things you think I am. Yet you feel comfortable issuing silly little threats.

You really should take a long hard look at yourself and the wider ramifications of what you are threatening.

If you carry out this threat, it makes absoloutly no difference to me. People will make up thier own minds whatever shite you feel justified in spouting, and I suspect much of these judgements will be about you and your conduct.

I am respected by many for many film work and continue to be approached with new and challenging projects. If you wish to use your mail list to frustrate this, go ahead, but personally I wouldnt feel comfortable with myself for acting in this way. But there agian it really is quite typical of you.
 
I'm honestly not enjoying any of this. As of last monday I had cleared my decks all of committments for a few months, as my health is failing me. Having spend the last week up to my ears in legal gibberish, and trolls on BIM, I am not at all prepared to put up with a single day more of this.

The press release makes no mention of Zaskar, as is exactly as it should be.

And I do appreciate the feeling of others that heads should be banged together.
 
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