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Bono - saint or ego riding manipulative twat ?

One has to take it easy at my age - you youngsters can consume all you like and still burn the candle at both ends as did I back in the day.
You must have been consuming a lot if you think you were at Glasto in 2006 :p
 
You must have been consuming a lot if you think you were at Glasto in 2006 :p

oh fallow year - must have been 2005 then - they all merge into one in the end except for the very muddy one which one can never forget.
 
Bono. I can't abide the man. I can't. Him and his electric hymn singing and his sunglasses when it's not sunny. Don't say he's blind, he bloody well isn't.
 
Incidentally when U2 were at Glasto there was a lot of anti Bono jibes directed at Michael Eavis at his Green Fields Speaker's Tent appearance which I religiously attend. He was irritated by these comments suggesting that BONO gives a lot of his money away to charitable causes and that by managing his tax affairs as he does he is able to give more to the righton causes rather than pay taxes to a government that could squander them on armies, guns and the like. He also added that headliners give their appearance at Glasto at a massive discount to their commercial fees and are friends and guests of Michael and the festival and that it was impertinent to show such direspect at the farm.That told em !
 
oh fallow year - must have been 2005 then - they all merge into one in the end except for the very muddy one which one can never forget.
Yeah sorry for taking the piss ;) Must have been 2005, I bought some Make Poverty History pants there. It was muddy cos of 'Brown Friday' but nothing like as bad as 2007, which was awful
 
Incidentally when U2 were at Glasto there was a lot of anti Bono jibes directed at Michael Eavis at his Green Fields Speaker's Tent appearance which I religiously attend. He was irritated by these comments suggesting that BONO gives a lot of his money away to charitable causes and that by managing his tax affairs as he does he is able to give more to the righton causes rather than pay taxes to a government that could squander them on armies, guns and the like. He also added that headliners give their appearance at Glasto at a massive discount to their commercial fees and are friends and guests of Michael and the festival and that it was impertinent to show such direspect at the farm.That told em !
while I think he gives wonderful parties and is generally on the right side in things, I don't pay an awful lot of attention to the details of what Michael thinks on any given day of the week
 
while I think he gives wonderful parties and is generally on the right side in things, I don't pay an awful lot of attention to the details of what Michael thinks on any given day of the week
He is always the highlight of my visit - without his dedication , and sobriety there would be no festival. Saw Andrew Kerr the co-founder talking at the Spirit of 71 tent - he was the hippy counterpoint to Michael getting all the early loon buy in - he's really shot to pieces now a lifetime of excess having taken their toll and reading between the lines he feels his contribution to the legacy is underestimated. Problem is he would have been tripping out with the talent when Michael was sorting all the shit out.
 
He is always the highlight of my visit - without his dedication , and sobriety there would be no festival. Saw Andrew Kerr the co-founder talking at the Spirit of 71 tent - he was the hippy counterpoint to Michael getting all the early loon buy in - he's really shot to pieces now a lifetime of excess having taken their toll and reading between the lines he feels his contribution to the legacy is underestimated. Problem is he would have been tripping out with the talent when Michael was sorting all the shit out.
well absolutely - and much as I like a good party, I've always tended towards the 'sorting shit out' side of things by and large. Maybe this is why I work on site safety team rather than go looking for more 'fun' blags... :hmm:
 
well absolutely - and much as I like a good party, I've always tended towards the 'sorting shit out' side of things by and large. Maybe this is why I work on site safety team rather than go looking for more 'fun' blags... :hmm:

Good man I'm on the recycling crew this year for the first time get there Wednesday - have the festival then work 6 hours a day in the sheds from Tuesday - Friday the following week. Can't wait just 9 days on the farm for me and my mate is an unknown but really exciting quantity.
 
Good man I'm on the recycling crew this year for the first time get there Wednesday - have the festival then work 6 hours a day in the sheds from Tuesday - Friday the following week. Can't wait just 9 days on the farm for me and my mate is an unknown but really exciting quantity.
fair dos - I'm all front ended, leave today, work starts Tuesday, then go home Monday. Though I could be working Monday daytime this year :hmm:
 
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It is really depressing that UN bureaucrats really do not understand that the worst way for people to be informed of global injustice is to wheel out a popular celebrity. Believe it or not, Craig David is "Goodwill Ambassador against Tuberculosis". A full list of the people that are busy saving the world can be found here: http://www.un.org/sg/mop/gwa.shtml


It does looking increasingly likely that in the future the UN's response to any crisis/epidemic will consist of simply deploying some twat to the affected zone. I just have an image of a fire engulfed Milton Keynes and a Brazilian aristocrat on a hastily constructed stage with Chris Barrie shouting "Hey, look everyone.. it's Rimmer! You remember Rimmer?!"
 
bah.I wanted an argument. What does laurie penny think of this ?

If you want an argument go to a U2 fan site. You won't get one here. I agree with trashy. I think it's about him, his world revolves around him and if he actually gave a fuck about Africa he'd just get on with doing some good stuff. He's a dick.
 
This of course was the ferociously anti republican and pro imperialist Gay Byrnes way of assuring the powers that be that no subsersives were being promoted on his show.

Tell me more of Byrne's litany of dodgy views. Only know him as a grumpy 'should have been pensioned off years ago' chatshow host. But grew too powerful to sack (an Irish Johnny Carson).
 
Tell me more of Byrne's litany of dodgy views. Only know him as a grumpy 'should have been pensioned off years ago' chatshow host. But grew too powerful to sack (an Irish Johnny Carson).

he is ferociously pro British and vehemently anti republican, to the extent hes made more than a few major political gaffes, one of which took down a Northern Ireland secretary of state and another scuppering his presidential nominee campaign. His tv and radio shows always heavily featured victims of republican violence but never victims of state or death squad violence . Similarly theyd feature the likes of minor royals or British politicians getting a warm welcome while he pointedly refused to shake Gerry Adams hand after inviting him on as a guest...not that ive ant time for that prick either. With all the while him wittering away with his little one sided barbs and comments which never accepted there could be a few sides to the issue .
His oul fella joined the Hussars even before war broke out, in 1912 and was a loyal Irish subject of the king . And his oul fellas family were underlings for the Earl of Meath I think. Happy colonial underlings and loyal subjects, the pesky revolution greatly disturbed their natural order and made their arse licking a social embarassment Byrne never got over.
His bitterness at that erupted inadvertantly during the last presidential campaign when Fianna Fail started touting him as a possible nominee . All of a sudden he was on the radio discussing political subjects and he totally lost the run of himself, when in mid ramble he denounced the IRA insurgents of the 1920s as a bunch of gangsters. Political suicide for any nominee of a state supposedly founded by that very insurgency....although thats a myth the state used to justify its legitimacy. And doubly suicidal for a Fianna Fail nominee of all people. Within 24 hours of the mask slipping the spin doctors had told him to forget it, hed just gifted Martin Mcguinness more ammunition than he could decommission in a lifetime.

my computers bollocking about again, ill return to this later and fill you in a bit more
 
Incidentally when U2 were at Glasto there was a lot of anti Bono jibes directed at Michael Eavis at his Green Fields Speaker's Tent appearance which I religiously attend. He was irritated by these comments suggesting that BONO gives a lot of his money away to charitable causes and that by managing his tax affairs as he does he is able to give more to the righton causes rather than pay taxes to a government that could squander them on armies, guns and the like. !


you could maybe point out to Mr Eavis that...sadly...Bono happens to be an Irish citizen and Eires defence spending ranks up there with Monacos or Andorras

these are not joke pictures, these are pretty much the backbone of the Irish air corps . Not that type of plane mind you, those actual planes are pretty much it.

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U2 themselves probably have more planes
 
"Ironically, Bono has previously told a story of how, in 1985, he worked in an orphanage and helped teach Ethiopian children a few songs about how to save seeds for the next planting season. Now, working through ONE alongside companies such as Monsanto, he helps ensure that someday African farmers may be legally forced to buy new seeds every year to grow their crops."

http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/21/bono-sacred-cow-or-sad-clown/
 
you could maybe point out to Mr Eavis that...sadly...Bono happens to be an Irish citizen and Eires defence spending ranks up there with Monacos or Andorras

these are not joke pictures, these are pretty much the backbone of the Irish air corps . Not that type of plane mind you, those actual planes are pretty much it.

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Irish_Air_Corps_Pilatus_PC-9M_Air_Firing_2008xxxIMG_2437-01.jpg


U2 themselves probably have more planes


Sadly I think the moment has passed to have a word with Michael and he will be busy enough over the next few days - and the response will be write me a letter. I think the reference to military spending was a metaphor for government spending we don't like. The only time I've seen him mildly irritated was the wombles incident a while back when they appeared on the Avalon stage - he remarked that the stages are pretty much autonomous in the bands they pick - so he hadn't known about the wombles till late in the day and that had he known he might have had a quiet word. I think with his innate good nature and positivity he only sees goodness all around him or things that need to be done. The fact that the big bands will cut their cloth for the prestige of playing there means that he can pay them a pittance of what they would get on the commercial circuit - and with that in mind he is inclined to thanks the artistes not subject them to a right on harangue.

I missed them when they played as I have no enthusiasm for overcrowded rock rallies where you can't get to the toilet and you end up watching a TV screen. That said some of their music is a guilty secret for me. But can the overpaid , over exposed rock stars stop poncing on humanitarian causes unless they are going to seriously and consistently give away a lot of their gains to help the world rather than grandstanding on misery for exposure and positive marketing.

 
Larry Mullen , the quiet one,the only working class Dub in the group thinks Bono is a dick.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/e...h-war-criminals-makes-me-cringe-28461000.html
U2 drummer Larry Mullen has admitted he "cringes" when he sees Bono associating with "war criminals" George W Bush and Tony Blair.

He brands Mr Blair and Mr Bush "war criminals".

"Tony Blair is a war criminal and I think he should be tried as a war criminal.

"Then I see Bono and him as pals and I'm going, 'I don't like that'. Do I think George Bush is a war criminal? Probably -- but the difference between him and Tony Blair is that Blair is intelligent. So, he has no excuse."
 
For me anyway, he has been at this ego thing a LONG time. Rewind to the early / mid 1980's. I was then a callow and overly earnest youth, very much into Crass and the like. Most of my mates who I was at school with were dismissive of this and telling me I had to "get with the times" and start listening to the likes of U2 and Simple Minds.

I gave it a go, starting with what was recommended to me as a controversial song "Sunday Bloody Sunday". It was that live album with the red cover. To start with, the penis began with the lines "there's been a lot of talk about this next song...maybe TOO much talk". Which, for me, he might as well have said "look at me - I'm dead radical me, a bit edgy, like". Then the song began. I listened. All the way through. I still remember thinking "how can you write a song about bloody Sunday and manage to say precisely two thirds of fuck all about what actually happened???" "And the battle's just begun - to claim the victory Jesus won..." What the fuck is that even supposed to mean? You are correct on one thing, Mr Bono - "This song is NOT a rebel song" but "this song is nothing at all" should have followed that.

Then I had the misfortune to be shown a VIDEO of said live recording in which he was stomping about in bikers boots with a mullet, punching the air and waving a flag with nothing on it as if he wanted to imagine he was crusading or fighting for something, but didn't have the balls to actually say what it was. As a band, they had and have all the substance of a MacDonald's bun. If they had written a song about what happened to Stephen Lawrence, it would have been like this

Something not quite right might have happened
It happened outside
Can you really tell what's happened?
It could be bad and things are going on
Mobile phones and youtube are going into overdrive

I won't personally get involved
I am tired of things that happen

What has really gone on?
God and Jesus.
We should all come together.


I don't like him, incidentally.
 
Bono is a pretty weak target for 2013, noone likes him anymore

I used to like them up until the Pop album because they did make very catchy songs and with Flood producing them they were interesting sounding records to me, plus the old songs were just programmed into me because they had been on the radio all the time as a kid. Over the last decade as U2 stopped making records and Bono became some ambassador for peace then everyone in the world started hating him. He actually does fly around the world talking about the terrible conditions that people live in while wearing a leather jacket and shades (special 'bono' shades as well!) he has actually spent more than a decade doing that, who wouldn't hate him?
Now I can't listen to these songs I used to live because it's that guy singing on them lol

If you wanted an argument you should have said Thom Yorke who is a slightly improved version of Bono or Michael Eavis who absolutely loved New Labour, people still like them
 
If you wanted an argument you should have said Thom Yorke who is a slightly improved version of Bono or Michael Eavis who absolutely loved New Labour, people still like them

Don't know who either of those people are :hmm:
 
yeh read it and its really typical of the one-sided hate, definite ignorance and vitriol against the man.

makes me laugh....Bono lives in Dublin and is from the Northside, which is an impoverished neck of the woods like me.

Love him....have read everything about him. Dont want to even go there but Bono is a thoroughly decent man. and, like all celebs, no one here gives a shit where he lives, that is why celebrities move here. We arent hung on any of that shit....and neither do we care where he does his taxes....
 
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