Birmingham new street station
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bi0boy
Power User
It's here Birmingham New Street named as Britain’s worst railway station
And I haven't seen it but I'm sure it's shit. It's still just a shopping center on top of some underground platforms isn't it?
And I haven't seen it but I'm sure it's shit. It's still just a shopping center on top of some underground platforms isn't it?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it's best seen from a train as it recedes into the distance imo
wtfftw
melting like a toastie
Thank you! I obviously can't work the search even tho I do try.
There's a nice open expanse. And a model of the station which presumably won't be a permanent fixture.
neonwilderness
What would Badgers do?
I don't think machine cat would agreeAnyway. It's alright innit? I like the bright bit with the roof bit.
I've not been since they finished it, but it used to be a right dump
I was there last week and there wasn't a bin or ashtray outside to put my fag outI don't think machine cat would agree
I've not been since they finished it, but it used to be a right dump
Another reason to hate NS
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
It's a pretty good job, considering what they had to work with.
Platform level won't be finished for another year though.
Platform level won't be finished for another year though.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Nah. Other way round. Best seen as the train brings you into it and away from other places e.g. London.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
They've done a good job above ground. But there is no added capacity as a result of the upgrade - not for one additional train- and the platforms haven't been changed.
The Council and their 'partners' seem obsessed with the centre of the city at the expense of inner city areas and poor outlying areas. Their transport strategy is a classic case in point - new station and tram in the centre, nothing for the rest of the city.
The Council and their 'partners' seem obsessed with the centre of the city at the expense of inner city areas and poor outlying areas. Their transport strategy is a classic case in point - new station and tram in the centre, nothing for the rest of the city.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
The platforms have/are being changed, but there is another years worth of work down there still to go.
As for capacity, they were always stuck on that. There is simply nowhere to put extra tracks in and out.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
It's not about needing extra tracks as far as I understand it - it's that the station and it's platforms are at full capacity.
The wider point I am making is that large parts of the city still do not have a train/tram service and public transport consists entirely of unreliable buses on heavily congested roads. Most parts of the city still don't have proper cycle routes either.
The money spent on the station and the tram (almost £1 Billion) addresses none of that.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Yes the station is at capacity and the only way to increase that would be more platforms and more tracks in and out. But where would they go? The station is stuck underground with nowhere to go.
The trams are being extended - there will eventually be routes down into digbeth and one down broad street to Five Ways and potentially beyond. Will all take time though.
As for the roads, look around - there is a huge program currently underway at many of the major pinch points to ease congestion. This work is quite often why it's so congested
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Yes the station is at capacity and the only way to increase that would be more platforms and more tracks in and out. But where would they go? The station is stuck underground with nowhere to go.
The trams are being extended - there will eventually be routes down into digbeth and one down broad street to Five Ways and potentially beyond. Will all take time though.
As for the roads, look around - there is a huge program currently underway at many of the major pinch points to ease congestion. This work is quite often why it's so congested
On the station as I understand it the need is for more platforms and yet a major and costly redevelopment to the station ignored this a) because HS2 will provide the extra capacity in due course (a debatable point to put it mildly and even if it happens not for another 15/20 years) and b) because the preference was to focus on retail space.
Digbeth and Broad Street/Five Ways will get a tram line by 2020 (I think). The cost of linking up the centre - Snow Hill, Bull Street, New Street has been £128 Million. By way of comparison Manchester has just extended its tram by 9 miles and put in an extra 20 stops for £400 Million. Their tram has over 90 stops, 15 lines and covers huge swathes of the city and surrounding districts/towns. We have a line to Wolverhampton and soon the centre linked up (when it'll probably still be quicker to walk!)
As for the 'roads programme' if you can understand the 'plan' you are doing better than me!
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
don't care where the train's going as long as new street left behind
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