Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Is he a $cientologist?
He might as well be, he's certainly fucking mental enough to qualify for membership.
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He might as well be, he's certainly fucking mental enough to qualify for membership.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
I've tried jazz. I have obviously failed. Now I will leave it to you. After all you are doing it so well.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
I know. It would be sad if it wasn't so laughably ridiculous.
I've tried jazz. I have obviously failed. Now I will leave it to you. After all you are doing it so well.
Please show me where you describe any vaccination campaign as a sack of shit, and I will leave it all to you. Otherwise, why don't you leave me the real work?
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
All hail Jazzz and his crusade to save us from ourselves.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
It's all yours jazz.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
At least the arrogance is entertaining.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
Have you noticed how pretty much all your posts now just elicit repeated
He's noticed -> L
KBut it makes no different because he believes in 'the truth' and he's found 'the evidence' to support his belief and everyone else is just plain wrong.
It’s that simple, do try to keep up.
Yes, Jazzz, everyone shut up because you're ABSOLUTELY correct
Maybe they shut up because they can't be fucked with you anymore? Have you noticed how pretty much all your posts now just elicit repeated
It's very simple. I stated that Klenner had documented 60/60 polio cures in medical journals, no-one believed it, and committed themselves to the position that it wasn't true.
However, no-one can actually question that now, so this puts everyone in a difficult position.
Either you say "jazzz, you were right on that point, interesting" and we all get somewhere.
Alternatively you try to make it all go away by covering the eyes.
... which do you choose?
As if the whole of medical science and interventions must be worthless if vaccinations are! I'm sorry but in the ridiculousness of the point I completely forgot about it.
You are right. People are completely free to have vaccines and whatever they wish. My duty here is simply to say what I think of them
dylans
overlord of all acorns
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
I question it Jazzz. The reference on the Wikipedia article refers to this
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/194x/klenner-fr-southern_med_surg-1949-v111-n7-p209.htm
which is someone's personal page hosted here
http://www.seanet.com/
Now that article claims it was published in Southern Medicine & Surgery, Volume 111, Number 7, July, 1949, pp. 209-214, but we have no independent verification of that. If you Google the reference, it refers back to itself and several crackpot sites.
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/194x/klenner-fr-southern_med_surg-1949-v111-n7-p209.htm
which is someone's personal page hosted here
http://www.seanet.com/
Now that article claims it was published in Southern Medicine & Surgery, Volume 111, Number 7, July, 1949, pp. 209-214, but we have no independent verification of that. If you Google the reference, it refers back to itself and several crackpot sites.
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
and we say what we think of you and your "duty"
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
Arrogant as well as delusional.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
It's very simple. I stated that Klenner had documented 60/60 polio cures in medical journals, no-one believed it, and committed themselves to the position that it wasn't true.
However, no-one can actually question that now, so this puts everyone in a difficult position.
Either you say "jazzz, you were right on that point, interesting" and we all get somewhere.
Alternatively you try to make it all go away by covering the eyes.
... which do you choose?
I didn't say I didn't believe did I? Please point me to where I said "I don't believe it." What I actually said was "If it's that important of a journal entry it would be online." Obviously it's not that important. Even if vitamin C is as effective as the polio vaccine someone's still going to make a profit out of it aren't they? So really your point is totally irrelevant. The atkins diet works ffs, but does anyone still follow it now really? No because it's not effective long term, I suspect the same is true with this vitamin C stuff because no one's really bothered to return to it in 60 years. This is just another one of your dull crusades for the twoof about those awful, awful vaccines.
As if the whole of medical science and interventions must be worthless if vaccinations are! I'm sorry but in the ridiculousness of the point I completely forgot about it.
Well you seem to think medical science is largely worthless. I judge this by your previous form of saying all medical staff are in on some evil scheme to cull the human race.
Well it is online, as we have seen, and I say it is important. I trust this will satisfy the forum?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18147027
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Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
Fucking hell, Jazzz, you actually linked to something credible
. That's literally the first time i've seen you do that. It still doesn't really prove your argument that vitamin c is better than the vaccine. If you do a search for vitamin c treatment polio, the only entries that are specifically about treating it are 50 years old, then it goes dead. The vaccine was being tried at around about the same time and was licenced in 1962 so obviously the vaccine was deemed far more effective for treatment, and ultimately virtual eradication, than vitamin c.Fair play for looking it up though.
I say no such thing and have said no such thing. How about you stop putting words into my mouth.
thank you, comment appreciated. I shall continue tomorrow!
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Oh well, never mind the fact that nobody seems to have followed up this earth shatteringly important medical discovery in over 60 years, YOU think it's important!
I dunno why medical science bothers, you clearly know best
fogbat
The Talibum
I really enjoy C
Thankfully, only other members of the Facepalm Corps.
Fuchs66
Ring a ding
AHHHHH he's preaching to the converted then?
Would be a shame if someone in a vulnerable situation actually listened to the bullshitter and did themselves or their children some harm.
incredible generosity
That's precisely the point, fool. Why haven't they?
When I told the forum that Klenner had documented 60 out of 60 polio cases making full recoveries with intravenously administered vitamin C, no-one here could believe it. I had facepalm after facepalm, from pretty much everyone on the thread, including yourself (I see you have not had even DrCarrot's reluctant grace to concede the point).
Now, just as I predicted, you have all switched tack. Somehow, a complete polio cure doesn't matter, or somehow, medical science 'moved on'. Of course, you don't have a fucking clue how it moved on, because there is no such paper which either refutes Klenner's findings or surpasses them.
Is there any thinking of yours but blind faith that current orthodox medical practice is the best there is?
Because while you make such faith-based pronouncements, there really is no helping you.
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