Bash the Rich!

[butchersapron]

Do you think that you're a good educator Dr yogurt?

 

[Dillinger4]

No, Dillinger, you buffoon, it's about your education.

Please educate us all GY. You are ever so smart. Smarter than everybody else, ever.

 

[Dillinger4]

Do you think that you're a good educator Dr yogurt?

Of course he is. We are all learning so much, and not even thinking he is a pompous prick in the slightest.

 

[JoePolitix]

I'm not joking here. I happen to know that you don't get rid of the problems of capitalism without abolishing capitalism. You might not want to take on the thankless task of educating people that way, and no doubt there are reasons for that, but you need to stop kidding yourself that token protest is going to change a thing. History shows that it doesn't.

So the task of abolishing capitalism and replacing it with socialism is down to educating people on how to do it then? Who are the educators? The SPGB? The Yogart Guru? The keepers of Holy Grail, the holders of that secret ingredient that'll sort everything out?

Bollox! There's no dialectical process there. Your entire stance is philosophical idealism pure and simple, not Marxism, not historical materialism.

 

[Dillinger4]

edit - nm

 

[muckypup]

I want to be rich

 

[Dillinger4]

I want to be rich

*bashes you*

 

[muckypup]

*bashes you*

I'll still be ethical and compassionate

poverty, ignorance and ideology; its a terrible mix. causes some people to spout a load of ideological rubbish. whilst, ironically, 99% of the poor working class just want to get rich I love humanity. the stupid baffoons that they are.

 

[Dillinger4]

I'll still be ethical and compassionate

poverty, ignorance and ideology; its a terrible mix. causes some people to spout a load of ideological rubbish. whilst, ironically, 99% of the poor working class just want to get rich I love humanity. the stupid baffoons that they are.

Just you wait for somebody far more ideologically inclined to come along and educate you on how wrong you are.

 

[The Black Hand]

So the task of abolishing capitalism and replacing it with socialism is down to educating people on how to do it then? Who are the educators? The SPGB? The Yogart Guru? The keepers of Holy Grail, the holders of that secret ingredient that'll sort everything out?

Bollox! There's no dialectical process there. Your entire stance is philosophical idealism pure and simple, not Marxism, not historical materialism.

Well said that man This is the Marx of Marx

 

[TopCat]

A thankless task of educating people indeed.

He did not grow up with an outside loo.

 

[The Black Hand]

I'm certain that he wouldn't want to argue against it. He must be very well aware that his position collapses in a puff of logic if he even acknowledges the false step in his thinking that I exposed dozens of postings ago.

As for your apparently unrelated questions, one, I'm not a pacifist. Actually, I'm a highly-trained and honed warrior. Two, I accept historical materialism as a useful tool for analysing things that happen, and the labour theory of value is the most accurate analysis of capitalism to date. If that makes me a 'pure' Marxist then yeah, guilty as charged.

You might think my question absurd. History shows us that ideas are a social construct. Attica would not hate the rich if he didn't feel so impoverished. What he needs to do is to let go of his rage and develop ways of really changing the world. Filling it with more hate and violence isn't a way forward.

As it goes while i woz away Butchers did a very good reply to you - there's nothing to add other than to say that love and hate are part of the totality. Without one the other is meaningless, anyway they exist more on a continuum rather than isolated and uninteracting. I have love/ i have hate - so what? At the minute I hate you and love Butchers IF love and peace changed the world the peaceniks, pacifists and Buddhists would have already done it but they have not. What changes the world is class struggle, but I forget - you not only have forgotten what it is like you never understood it in the first place

 

[GuruYoghourt]

You're absolutely right, children I've seen the light. Now I'm off to decapitate my employer with a hatchet. That'll make a revolution alright, won't it? Cocks.

 

[The Black Hand]

A thankless task of educating people indeed.

He did not grow up with an outside loo.

Goes to start an 'Outside loo' thread - more commonly know as the 'outside bog'.

 

[The Black Hand]

You're absolutely right, children I've seen the light. Now I'm off to decapitate my employer with a hatchet. That'll make a revolution alright, won't it? Cocks.

Oh poor diddums - taking your ball home and running off to mummys mansion

 

[butchersapron]

You're absolutely right, children I've seen the light. Now I'm off to decapitate my employer with a hatchet. That'll make a revolution alright, won't it? Cocks.

Cocks! Marx's cock! Kautsky's cock!

 

[muckypup]

actually i agree. the rich are evil. money is evil. give it all to me and I shall save you from the perils of wealth. I take cheques, cash, credit cards and material goods.

Free home collection service can be arranged.

 

[Dillinger4]

You're absolutely right, children I've seen the light. Now I'm off to decapitate my employer with a hatchet. That'll make a revolution alright, won't it? Cocks.

 

[The Black Hand]

actually i agree. the rich are evil. money is evil. give it all to me and I shall save you from the perils of wealth. I take cheques, cash, credit cards and material goods.

Free home collection service can be arranged.

Indeed, we are often told that money can make you unhappy. Can I have a go though?

 

[muckypup]

Indeed, we are often told that money can make you unhappy. Can I have a go though?

LAMO

bloody ideological left wing idiots. everything's black and white to them. how about a campaign to 'bash the dogmatic moron'. I'm pretty sure the working class will be happy to lend a helping hand. they want their bling and pity the socialist who tries to tells them otherwise

 

[The Black Hand]

LAMO

bloody ideological left wing idiots. everything's black and white to them. how about a campaign to 'bash the dogmatic moron'. I'm pretty sure the working class will be happy to lend a helping hand. they want their bling and pity the socialist who tries to tells them otherwise

I am afraid you are raging against an imaginary foe. Again. Have a spliff and relax - it may do you good.

 

[muckypup]

I am afraid you are raging against an imaginary foe. Again. Have a spliff and relax - it may do you good.

yes imaginary as in no one pays them any attention, they might as well not exist and i'm very relaxed my dear boy. but thank you

 

[The Black Hand]

yes imaginary as in no one pays them any attention, they might as well not exist and i'm very relaxed my dear boy. but thank you

A pleasure my dear sir, I do aim to please. Verily, it was only yesterday, a harsh stormy Northern day, that I took my cape off and laid it before the feet of a fair damsel as she got out of her horse powered chariot.

 

[GuruYoghourt]

Indeed, we are often told that money can make you unhappy. Can I have a go though?

You fucking wankstain. You just lost the argument. There. You've dragged me down to your own pathetic level, which is what you and your hideously didactic and hypocritical chums always try to do. [Actually, rather than running off with my ball, as you asserted earlier, I'm going to start another thread entitled 'Freedom for me to be a complete tosser and freedom for you to think the way I do: The problems of anarchism as a half-baked idea' ]Personal freedom? Fuck off, you dictatorial fascist poseur.

 

[Dillinger4]

You fucking wankstain. You just lost the argument. There. You've dragged me down to your own pathetic level, which is what you and your hideously didactic and hypocritical chums always try to do. [Actually, rather than running off with my ball, as you asserted earlier, I'm going to start another thread entitled 'Freedom for me to be a complete tosser and freedom for you to think the way I do: The problems of anarchism as a half-baked idea' ]Personal freedom? Fuck off, you dictatorial fascist poseur.

Haha.

This is called throwing the rattle out of the pram.

 

[GuruYoghourt]

I repeat:

What.

A.

Prick.

Keep going. You'll fool the dupes. Some people make a living out of it. Just got to fool enough people. You''l make a great politician.

 

[Dillinger4]

Keep going. You'll fool the dupes. Some people make a living out of it. Just got to fool enough people. You''l make a great politician.

Just can't help sounding like a prick with every word you type.

 

[GuruYoghourt]

Throwing the rattle out of the pram is what you call it. Anyone with a brain in this thread thinks that you've been crushed. Which you have.

 

[Dillinger4]

Throwing the rattle out of the pram is what you call it. Anyone with a brain in this thread thinks that you've been crushed. Which you have.

See above.

 

[Dillinger4]

Throwing the rattle out of the pram is what you call it. Anyone with a brain in this thread thinks that you've been crushed. Which you have.

Its nice you win little victories in your own mind. But what a shame it doesn't match what actually happens outside of your fevered imagination.