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Barbaric: woman stoned to death in Pakistan

I don't really have anything else to say on this. I get that we in the west live in a completely different culture, but some things are absolutes surely: the instincts to nurture and support your kids not done them, while pregnant, for loving the wrong person. I would hope the authorities in Pakistan (aren't they a nuclear power?) don't condone this.
 
Awesome Wells said:
I don't really have anything else to say on this. I get that we in the west live in a completely different culture, but some things are absolutes surely: the instincts to nurture and support your kids not done them, while pregnant, for loving the wrong person. I would hope the authorities in Pakistan (aren't they a nuclear power?) don't condone this.
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they are but iirc they don't have the delivery systems to chuck a warhead very far. not outside the sub continent.
 
Awesome Wells said:
I don't really have anything else to say on this. I get that we in the west live in a completely different culture, but some things are absolutes surely: the instincts to nurture and support your kids not done them, while pregnant, for loving the wrong person. I would hope the authorities in Pakistan (aren't they a nuclear power?) don't condone this.
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there are no universals -"absolutes" - in human society
 
Thing is pickmans pakistan suffers from the same problems of rape and spousal abuse as we do in the west and then for additional stupid/evil does shit like this and kills girls for looking at a boy by pouring acid all over them.
Around about a 1000 women a year killed for "honour" probably more.
So backward fuckheads :mad:they remain till they stop doing retarded evil shit like that
 
littlebabyjesus said:
Ah, wiki.

Does it give a counter-example.
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some inuit societies, apparently - leaving aside the famous royal line of egypt. it depends how you define incest. certainly in europe people have had marriages annulled on the basis of consanguinuity, robert guiscard and alberada of buonalbergo being one example which leaps to mind. in parts of the middle east, e.g. iran, marriage to first cousins is very common.
 
Pickman's model said:
some inuit societies, apparently - leaving aside the famous royal line of egypt. it depends how you define incest. certainly in europe people have had marriages annulled on the basis of consanguinuity, robert guiscard and alberada of buonalbergo being one example which leaps to mind. in parts of the middle east, e.g. iran, marriage to first cousins is very common.
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How about parent-child unions?
 
DotCommunist said:
maybe not daily but philpot torching his kids for the insurance money was off the scale.
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tbh the way that so many people in this country are being knowingly and deliberately ground down into poverty so bad they cannot afford food by the government is, to my mind, at least as barbaric as this vicious killing. there's a thread here about the number of people who've killed themselves because of the government's benefits policies: are those deaths the result of barbarism or of enlightened policy?
 
Pickman's model said:
tbh the way that so many people in this country are being knowingly and deliberately ground down into poverty so bad they cannot afford food by the government is, to my mind, at least as barbaric as this vicious killing. there's a thread here about the number of people who've killed themselves because of the government's benefits policies: are those deaths the result of barbarism or of enlightened policy?
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i think the difference there is that there is a remove- a deniability for the govmnt. They set the conditions but don't deliberatly specify the results.

if you see what I am saying?
 
Pickman's model said:
acts ordered by a state less barbaric then cos of gloss of government. and the holocaust? was that an act of war?
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Was the Holocaust an act of war? Yes. :confused: I've read some of the original articles where Hitler told his people that the Jews were bad, and it very much reads like an act of war.

Then most of the worst parts of the Holocaust happened during the second world war.
 
scifisam said:
Was the Holocaust an act of war? Yes. :confused: I've read some of the original articles where Hitler told his people that the Jews were bad, and it very much reads like an act of war.

Then most of the worst parts of the Holocaust happened during the second world war.
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you might also have read some of the speeches where he describes the jews as a bacillus, a disease. while the mechanism of the holocaust wasn't arrived at until after the outbreak of the second world war, it was very much a logical advance on where the third reich had been going beforehand - from the deprivation of civil rights with the nuremburg laws of 1935 through kristallnacht and on to belsen, treblinka, sobibor and auschwitz. but i would be very interested to hear if you've found hitler describing the extermination of the jews as an act of war.
 
Pickman's model said:
you might also have read some of the speeches where he describes the jews as a bacillus, a disease. while the mechanism of the holocaust wasn't arrived at until after the outbreak of the second world war, it was very much a logical advance on where the third reich had been going beforehand - from the deprivation of civil rights with the nuremburg laws of 1935 through kristallnacht and on to belsen, treblinka, sobibor and auschwitz. but i would be very interested to hear if you've found hitler describing the extermination of the jews as an act of war.
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well the various different programmes and laws became solidified into a solid extermination project at the wansee conference (as I'm sure ye know) in '42. Theres a harrowing film on that. The baccilus stuff and 'infection' etc is more or less straight from the Protocols iirc.

So not an act of war in nazi heads, a necessary racial cleansing. Which explains why it continued and intensified even after the writing was on the wall for the axis powers.
 
DotCommunist said:
well the various different programmes and laws became solidified into a solid extermination project at the wansee conference (as I'm sure ye know) in '42. Theres a harrowing film on that. The baccilus stuff and 'infection' etc is more or less straight from the Protocols iirc.

So not an act of war in nazi heads, a necessary racial cleansing. Which explains why it continued and intensified even after the writing was on the wall for the axis powers.
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yeh despite diverting manpower and logistical resources (e.g. trains, fuel) from the perhaps more immediate task at hand.
 
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