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not henry said:
This thread albeit well meaning contains advice of varying quality.
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If it's £4k bill for council tax I find it hard to believe the council didn't put a charging order on the property, meaning the debt would have been settled as part of the sale. I find it hard to believe any council would let a council tax bill debt get that high. I had a snotty letter for one late payment!!
 
cybershot said:
If it's £4k bill for council tax I find it hard to believe the council didn't put a charging order on the property, meaning the debt would have been settled as part of the sale. I find it hard to believe any council would let a council tax bill debt get that high. I had a snotty letter for one late payment!!
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Our council gave everyone a pass in 2020 and didn't chase anything. Yes I am currently dealing with council tax debt as a result of not being able to pay last year. They chased this years mind you and a ballsup meant I got a summons.
 
cybershot said:
If it's £4k bill for council tax I find it hard to believe the council didn't put a charging order on the property, meaning the debt would have been settled as part of the sale. I find it hard to believe any council would let a council tax bill debt get that high. I had a snotty letter for one late payment!!
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Iirc there was a council charge on the property which should have been paid off on completion of the sale.

Clearly council haven't let the wankers know it's been settled.

Get onto the council and get them to sort it. Might have better luck that way than trying to get it into the thick heads of the debt collectors.
 
cybershot said:
If it's £4k bill for council tax I find it hard to believe the council didn't put a charging order on the property, meaning the debt would have been settled as part of the sale. I find it hard to believe any council would let a council tax bill debt get that high. I had a snotty letter for one late payment!!
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Yeah, I've accidentally underpaid by a few pounds on occasion - I do a manual payment as I refuse to do a direct debit for council tax due to previous issues - and within a week the old red letter pops through the letterbox, uttering dire threats.

Wankers.
 
Might not have been settled in full, there were multiple charges and it depends who gets paid first.
WouldBe said:
Iirc there was a council charge on the property which should have been paid off on completion of the sale.

Clearly council haven't let the wankers know it's been settled.

Get onto the council and get them to sort it. Might have better luck that way than trying to get it into the thick heads of the debt collectors.
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The price wasn't increased due to their debts, I just had to wait a bit longer.

Let's see if he turns up today. Have beefy man present.
 
The official citizens advice thing says you should write to the bailiffs with proof of your identity/residence if you're not the person who owes the debt. I still say fuck that. It's on them to prove they've got the right person, and I don't believe we should allow anyone to extort people's confidential information with the threat of force.
 
Presumably you have a whole heap of paperwork attached to your buying the flat? Could you show it to them if they turn up?
 
SpookyFrank said:
The official citizens advice thing says you should write to the bailiffs with proof of your identity/residence if you're not the person who owes the debt. I still say fuck that. It's on them to prove they've got the right person, and I don't believe we should allow anyone to extort people's confidential information with the threat of force.
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I'd go with the advice - if you've got written proof that you've told them, then you're in a much better position if they ignore it and then try to take you to court. Always better than phoning them for example.
 
two sheds said:
I'd go with the advice - if you've got written proof that you've told them, then you're in a much better position if they ignore it and then try to take you to court. Always better than phoning them for example.
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I have to admit I did that when I was having problems with baliff's due to a similar situation. It did the job, I never heard from any baliff after I showed them the mortgage papers. Did I want to? Fuck no, but I also didn't want constant phone messages, fake parcel notifications and letters.
 
for council tax debt, phone the council, email them. Explain it’s the wrong person. Tell them to check the electoral roll, presuming you’re on it. If the bailiffs turn up and you have a letter or something proving you are the new owner to hand and can be asked, show them. Otherwise ignore. I certainly wouldn’t be writing to the bailiffs with proof of ownership and ID. Fuck that.
 
I was being chased for council tax debt in my name but for a property I never live that. I phoned the council tax office and explained. I don’t think I sent them any paperwork certainly couldn’t have been arsed. I wasn’t even going to phone. Figuring if they took me to court I can prove where I’ve been living and paying rent. But it was upsetting my housemates. Who I had to get to read the original letter hence how they knew.
 
xenon said:
for council tax debt, phone the council, email them. Explain it’s the wrong person. Tell them to check the electoral roll, presuming you’re on it. If the bailiffs turn up and you have a letter or something proving you are the new owner to hand and can be asked, show them. Otherwise ignore. I certainly wouldn’t be writing to the bailiffs with proof of ownership and ID. Fuck that.
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In my case it was CCJs being issued for everything. The previous owner basically did a runner and left a boatload of debt behind when she sold the place. She hadn't paid a bill for months, not phone, utilities, credit cards.
 
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xenon said:
for council tax debt, phone the council, email them. Explain it’s the wrong person. Tell them to check the electoral roll, presuming you’re on it. If the bailiffs turn up and you have a letter or something proving you are the new owner to hand and can be asked, show them. Otherwise ignore. I certainly wouldn’t be writing to the bailiffs with proof of ownership and ID. Fuck that.
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Yes email them but I'd say copy to bailiffs.
 
SpookyFrank said:
The official citizens advice thing says you should write to the bailiffs with proof of your identity/residence if you're not the person who owes the debt. I still say fuck that. It's on them to prove they've got the right person, and I don't believe we should allow anyone to extort people's confidential information with the threat of force.
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Absolutely - the onus is completely on the bailiff to be able to prove they have the right person/debt.
 
The bailiffs number goes straight to voicemail every time I call. No idea why they bother putting the number on the letters.

He hasn't turned up today.
 
No, the guy neither answers nor calls back.

Went out for half an hour and came back to another threatening letter. Tried to call and yet again straight to voicemail. Pissed off. Emailed company again, and on hold to the council but it's already been 20 minutes and I have work in a bit.
 
miss direct said:
No, the guy neither answers nor calls back.

Went out for half an hour and came back to another threatening letter. Tried to call and yet again straight to voicemail. Pissed off. Emailed company again, and on hold to the council but it's already been 20 minutes and I have work in a bit.
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Is the letter inside an envelope? If so, I'd just score through address and write 'return to sender, addressee moved' and put it back in the post box.
 
Must admit I'd be emailing the council so you've got a record of it. Phoning's good if you can get a human being but get their email address and confirm conversation in emai.
 
miss direct you could try from a different angle, data protection. Email the data protection officer at dpo@marstonholdings.co.uk asking for any information relating to your address to be removed from their database as the previous occupier has sold the property and moved. Say that if they do not remove your details you will report them to the Information Commissioner's Office.

Got to be worth a shot.

I did have a look at Marston's website and their is an absolute lack of contact information for them.
 
equationgirl said:
miss direct you could try from a different angle, data protection. Email the data protection officer at dpo@marstonholdings.co.uk asking for any information relating to your address to be removed from their database as the previous occupier has sold the property and moved. Say that if they do not remove your details you will report them to the Information Commissioner's Office.

Got to be worth a shot.

I did have a look at Marston's website and their is an absolute lack of contact information for them.
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Yeah, they are hopeless. Have a whole chain of emails from them and I don't have the things they demand from me to "prove" that I live there.
 
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