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Bailiffs turning up at new place while I'm away

The twonks came again today and left the same note. Obviously ignored my voicemail.

Found this info buried on their website:

A court order only applies to the person (or business) named on it.

If somebody has moved house, but their details haven’t been updated, you might receive post meant for them. Please let us know.

Sometimes we are given the wrong information, for example someone might pretend they have moved house when they haven’t. It’s an important part of our job to check that the information we’re being told is correct. We’re sorry if this is a nuisance.

If you give us proof that you live at the address, we will tell our client, and update our records. This proof (sometimes called ‘proof of residence’) can be a copy of an up to date utility bill, tenancy agreement or council tax bill. If it’s easier to take a photo of these on your phone and send that to us, that’s fine.
You can email these to us at [email protected].


I've emailed, but am unable to provide proof as a) I'm out of the country (and clearly don't want to let them know that) and b) as yet, I don't have any bills in my name - electric and gas are on a meter. Why is it my problem to prove who I am? Told them to contact the council (who sent me a leaseholders pack, so clearly have a record of me.)
 
The twonks came again today and left the same note. Obviously ignored my voicemail.

Found this info buried on their website:

A court order only applies to the person (or business) named on it.

If somebody has moved house, but their details haven’t been updated, you might receive post meant for them. Please let us know.

Sometimes we are given the wrong information, for example someone might pretend they have moved house when they haven’t. It’s an important part of our job to check that the information we’re being told is correct. We’re sorry if this is a nuisance.

If you give us proof that you live at the address, we will tell our client, and update our records. This proof (sometimes called ‘proof of residence’) can be a copy of an up to date utility bill, tenancy agreement or council tax bill. If it’s easier to take a photo of these on your phone and send that to us, that’s fine.
You can email these to us at [email protected].


I've emailed, but am unable to provide proof as a) I'm out of the country (and clearly don't want to let them know that) and b) as yet, I don't have any bills in my name - electric and gas are on a meter. Why is it my problem to prove who I am? Told them to contact the council (who sent me a leaseholders pack, so clearly have a record of me.)

They may be the same people as left a note for me. Vague recollection it was the same name... I'd just keep trying the phone, though obviously this is somewhat inconvenient for you. Possibly get your friend to leave a note taped to the door, though wording this might be a bit tricky without also alerting any nearby thieves.
 
The twonks came again today and left the same note. Obviously ignored my voicemail.

Found this info buried on their website:

A court order only applies to the person (or business) named on it.

If somebody has moved house, but their details haven’t been updated, you might receive post meant for them. Please let us know.

Sometimes we are given the wrong information, for example someone might pretend they have moved house when they haven’t. It’s an important part of our job to check that the information we’re being told is correct. We’re sorry if this is a nuisance.

If you give us proof that you live at the address, we will tell our client, and update our records. This proof (sometimes called ‘proof of residence’) can be a copy of an up to date utility bill, tenancy agreement or council tax bill. If it’s easier to take a photo of these on your phone and send that to us, that’s fine.
You can email these to us at [email protected].


I've emailed, but am unable to provide proof as a) I'm out of the country (and clearly don't want to let them know that) and b) as yet, I don't have any bills in my name - electric and gas are on a meter. Why is it my problem to prove who I am? Told them to contact the council (who sent me a leaseholders pack, so clearly have a record of me.)
Just ignore them, or maybe treat them like a piece of dog shit you just stood in. Don't do their work for them. Tell them one time only that you're not the person they want, and any further correspondence will be treated as harassment. If they ask you to prove you live there, tell them you will but you charge £250/hour for your services.
 
IME it is never worth going to any lengths to deal with people like this. If they had any legal ability to claim your property they would have done so, they wouldn't be sending stupid letters about it.
I do agree with this but it's still a stressy situation and I'm wondering miss direct if the leaseholders pack would have sufficient data to prove your identity and claim to the property ?

If it was me I doubt I'd be any good at ignoring them, kudos to those who can if course.
 
Yeah it would be different if I'd left the place empty, but I've just bought nice new things for pretty much the first time in my life. Ill see if they respond to my email. And then begin messaging the CEO directly on LinkedIn...
 
It's worth sending them an email saying "this person you are talking to is not here" - what I mean is that it's not worth going to any lengths to provide proof or anything like that. It is entirely not your job and they likely won't give a shit anyway. Oh and never send any personally identifiable information to any of this sort of company, absolutely no full stop, they have zero data privacy.
 
Imagine if some random bloke off the street decided you owed him money and started hassling you about it. You might say "no I don't owe you money, you've got the wrong person" the first time, but not after that, it would be more like "if you've got some claim then take it to court otherwise fuck off and stop bothering me or I'll call the cops". These people are in that exact same state.
 
FFS, hadn't had any for ages, then when I was out today, got back to another nasty bailiffs note, saying previous owners owe more than £4000 to the council. Rang the number given three times and it goes straight to voicemail.
 
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Tempting but costly at £120/hour if they do actually contact the solicitor. You could alternatively refer them to Arkell v Pressdram.
 
If you don't want the stress & hassle of them turning up, just show them evidence that you brought the place, and the debt has nothing to do with you.

They will then refer it back to their office to trace a new address for the debtor, and leave you alone.
 
"Help! There are people screaming and trying to kick my door down!"
It's what the police are there for.
if the bailiffs have a court order to effect/affect entry then the police function would be to prevent you from stopping them doing their court sanctioned duties. Once things have reached this stage , there is nothing/very little you can do about it and if you didn't owe the money, then it will take a lot of unpicking.
Only bailiffs have such powers. Debt collectors should be fucked straight off and the police should theoretically help you with any aggravation.
A debt usually has an extensive paper trail from the court before there are any visits. If someone turns up out of the blue, then you must ask yourself if it is feasible that you knew nothing of the matter.
This thread albeit well meaning contains advice of varying quality. A very good starting point for the dos and don'ts of debt collectors is Citizens Advice
 
If it's a council tax bill that is outstanding, I would contact the council, explain the problem and ask them to sort it.
 
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