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Avatar (James Cameron) [SPOILERS]

I saw this in 3d last night and thought it was fucking incredible.

One step off a holodeck.

So that's 100% of people who've seen it off here who thought it was great, and 89% of top critics. And yet still Santino will moan about the plot without having seen it :D
 
I saw it in 2D yesterday and thought it was awesome.

I think the incredible colours come across better in 2D, and James Cameron said he didn't "design" it for 3D, just happened to have 3D cameras there IYKWIM.

I saw a trailer on TV later and it looked totally different... one of those that really must be seen on the big screen.
 
well going to see this tonight followed by watching dances with smurfs

will let you know which one is the better
 
I think the incredible colours come across better in 2D, and James Cameron said he didn't "design" it for 3D, just happened to have 3D cameras there...

That's about as credible as "I was vacuuming in the nude, tripped and it just slipped in there" :hmm:
 
I think the incredible colours come across better in 2D, and James Cameron said he didn't "design" it for 3D, just happened to have 3D cameras there IYKWIM.

Um, where did u read that? he's spent shitloads developing those cameras that 'just happened to be there'..
 
That's about as credible as "I was vacuuming in the nude, tripped and it just slipped in there" :hmm:

Um, where did u read that? he's spent shitloads developing those cameras that 'just happened to be there'..

I saw him being interviewed. He meant that he didn't design any gimmicks in that most 3D movies have, and if he'd done the movie in 2D only it would have come out exactly the same as the current 2D version.

Personally I think it's a more immersive experience in 2D as the glasses are like viewing it through a window and tend to darken some scenes and moderate the bright colours.
 
I saw him being interviewed. He meant that he didn't design any gimmicks in that most 3D movies have, and if he'd done the movie in 2D only it would have come out exactly the same as the current 2D version.

I was under the impression he'd written the script for this ages ago but was specifically waiting for the 3d technology to be developed before beginning filming. so either he was talking utter shit in the interview you saw or the journo in the story i read was writing utter utter shit.
 
I was under the impression he'd written the script for this ages ago but was specifically waiting for the 3d technology to be developed before beginning filming. so either he was talking utter shit in the interview you saw or the journo in the story i read was writing utter utter shit.

No, he was waiting for the animation technology...not the 3D tech. When he saw golem in Lord of the Rings he realised the technology was now available to animate the characters realisticly.
 
No, he was waiting for the animation technology...not the 3D tech. When he saw golem in Lord of the Rings he realised the technology was now available to animate the characters realisticly.

But he developed the 3D tech himself, at great expense. You're right about the lack of 3D gimmicks, but it very much was developed with 3D in mind.

I reckon it'd be fine in 2D, a spectacle in itself, but the 3D is very special so see it like that if you can.
 
Not as good as LOTR, new Batmans or new Star Trek, I'm afraid. Nowhere close, in fact.

It is good, though :)

I suspect that had I seen it as a 20 year old stoner, though, it would have been a different story.

In fact, this may well have created a whole new genre: stoner-fi.

I may have to procure some weed and get stoned and go and see it again, as I reckon it would then be an entirely different film.
 
It was spectacular but I don't think I was anymore immersed than I would have had I watched a considerably better film in 2D.

Might go back and watch it stoned though :D

unobtanium anyone?
 
I seriously think it would be all kinds of awesome after some weed :D In fact, I can't think of a film more suited to being mashed. It was like the film version of a Pink Floyd album or something :D
 
visually stunning. a bit long and predictable in parts but if you like this sort of film its well worth going to see.
 
It was crap, boring as hell, saw it in 3D and it really wasn't amazing. So many missed opportunities story wise...boring action scenes.
 
They were far from good, I and my friends sat there bored. What can I say, I didn't suck the hype machine cock on this one...*shrugs*

Like I said a film can only be as interesting as the person watching it. :p

As for the hype, well actually the hype almost worked against it, there was a massive backlash in the two weeks running up to it's release and certainly me and my girlfriend went in expecting the worst, to be really pleasantly surprised by not only it's aesthetics but the not so "sub" political subtext that has a lot more balls than 99% of pseudo critical War movies.

Sure it has it's tripe Noble Savage, at one with nature cliches and predictably sticks to the standard "Hero" narrative and the inherent structural privileging that implies ie the "human" lead doesn't simply join the Na'vi but ends up leading them, but to focus on these obvious failings universal to almost every mainstream movie is to miss the many ways the film stands out, for example;

The typical role of the noble savage as providing another perspective on our societies, and in doing so acting to actually improve their functioning. Instead the role of the noble savage is total in this film, the lessons can't be simply be assimilated into our society by just taking a few platitudes from here or there and sticking them in a corporate mission statement or whatever, instead it requires a complete and violent break with our society, indeed the lead character gives up his crippled and alienated human body.

The film has the balls to totally pick a side, to reject any pathetic liberal handwringing, wavering or humanisation or justification for the individual motives of those on the companies side. Anyone used to American anti war movies knows that primarily they are about American tragedies, they we are meant to empathise primarily with the pain and anguish the war inflicts on the American pscyhe, with the hundreds and thousands of dead civilians and enemies a prop for indulging the self pity of the US.

Another thing in this film is the complete lack of 'civilians' as such, there are no good innocents who are caught up in a war between two sides, there are no good innocent peaceful Na'vi opposed to the violent, insurgent Na'vi.

Avatar is the closest Hollywood will ever let you get to cheerleading the US military getting it's fucking balls rolled and sure that doesn't make for perfect communist politics, after all I'm no big fan of third worldism, it certainly makes it more gutsy than 99% of films and pretty refreshing for a Hollywood block buster action sci fi.
 
Lots of folks I know on FB have come home singing its praises.

Which they also did about Twilight.

Which possibly asks more questions than it answers.

All this has happened before and will happen again, so.

And I can't chew anyway I love Let Me Love You by Mario :)
 
Lots of folks I know on FB have come home singing its praises.

Which they also did about Twilight.

Which possibly asks more questions than it answers.

All this has happened before and will happen again, so.

And I can't chew anyway I love Let Me Love You by Mario :)

LOl Avatar is great, Twilight is soo bad it's fucking hilarious, especially Ghost Edward's appearances. :D
 
LOl Avatar is great, Twilight is soo bad it's fucking hilarious, especially Ghost Edward's appearances. :D

I've been told to watch Twilight so many times by so many friends.

Fuck off! Cunts.

Avatar is blue aliens with boxer noses, quite fucking interested actually.
 
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