autonomous cars - the future of motoring is driverless

[T & P]

Gently nodding head?

Uh, if it's based on that, I hope they have refined it properly. I can imagine several scenarios, from softly nodding in approval during a conversation with someone in the car or what someone is saying on the radio, to doing it in time to music, where tiredness will not be a factor.

 

[Gromit]

Can the sensors checking whether you've fallen asleep read through sunglasses?

Only a matter of time before someone tries this hack

 

[Cid]

Uh, if it's based on that, I hope they have refined it properly. I can imagine several scenarios, from softly nodding in approval during a conversation with someone in the car or what someone is saying on the radio, to doing it in time to music, where tiredness will not be a factor.

It's not... Sunglasses, if you hadn't noticed, are not actually completely opaque. So presumably it's just a case of using a light source that isn't part of the visual spectrum, and isn't part of the spectrum generally blocked by sunglasses... Near infrared I expect. If you look around you can see posts complaining about it being too proactive. You can also find posts claiming it doesn't work with sunglasses, but its failure mode is to tell you you need to look at the road, so a case of either deactivate or it'll pull you over. I realise the BBC isn't great at fact-checking company claims or nuance, but if they've done 60 million miles accident free in the US, that's a pretty good indication that it works fine. Significantly better than normal actually I think, but I dunno whether you can get that from the data (e.g maybe that's just freeway miles etc).

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

This seems crazy. A level 2/3 assisted driving car has been approved for use on "certain" but not all motorways. You will need to pay a monthly subscription for it, I assume to ford. If the car detects you nodding off you will be be alerted and made to put your hands back on the wheel. Failing that, it will bring you slowly to a halt. Even in the fast lane!
BBC News - Ford launches hands-free driving on UK motorways

Ford launches hands-free driving on UK motorways

Government approves Ford's BlueCruise system to allow hands-off, eyes-on driving.

www.bbc.co.uk

This is great for the motorist who likes to masturbate whilst easting a bacon roll, hurtling down the M5.

 

[hash tag]

If that's what does it for you...it will make sex with someone else easier

 

[T & P]

This is great for the motorist who likes to masturbate whilst easting a bacon roll, hurtling down the M5.

Handy for lining up a quick pick-me-up as well- which itself is an excellent tool to help drivers remain awake and alert

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Handy for lining up a quick pick-me-up as well- which itself is an excellent tool to help drivers remain awake and alert

I hear Spymaster has three on order.

 

[weltweit]

Can the sensors checking whether you've fallen asleep read through sunglasses?

I know that regular if small movements of the steering wheel or the lack of them can be taken as a driver nodding off. Indeed there have been projects to develop this as a dozing sensing device.

 

[hash tag]

But the Mustang allows you to drive hands free unless it detects you are dozing

 

[Cid]

But the Mustang allows you to drive hands free unless it detects you are dozing

I realise you're responding to weltweit , but it allows you to drive hands free while your eyes are on the road. Well, pointed in the direction that the sensor assumes is the road.

 

[8ball]

I realise you're responding to weltweit , but it allows you to drive hands free while your eyes are on the road. Well, pointed in the direction that the sensor assumes is the road.

Easily hacked.

 

[8ball]

It's not... Sunglasses, if you hadn't noticed, are not actually completely opaque. So presumably it's just a case of using a light source that isn't part of the visual spectrum, and isn't part of the spectrum generally blocked by sunglasses... Near infrared I expect. If you look around you can see posts complaining about it being too proactive. You can also find posts claiming it doesn't work with sunglasses, but its failure mode is to tell you you need to look at the road, so a case of either deactivate or it'll pull you over. I realise the BBC isn't great at fact-checking company claims or nuance, but if they've done 60 million miles accident free in the US, that's a pretty good indication that it works fine. Significantly better than normal actually I think, but I dunno whether you can get that from the data (e.g maybe that's just freeway miles etc).

I think near IR will be blocked by most sunglasses.

This might sort it though:

 

[Cid]

I think near IR will be blocked by most sunglasses.

This might sort it though:

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Nah, they don't afaik. And chatGPT agrees with me. You can undoubtedly buy them, but they're a specialist (or some form of loon) thing.

 

[8ball]

Nah, they don't afaik. And chatGPT agrees with me. You can undoubtedly buy them, but they're a specialist (or some form of loon) thing.

I can check in a bit, but fair enough if you're sure. Relying on chatGPT's say-so seems a little iffy, though.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

But the Mustang allows you to drive hands free unless it detects you are dozing

It's when Spymaster stops wanking that the car thinks he's taking a nap, slows down to 70 and nips over to the slow-lane.

 

[Cid]

I can check in a bit, but fair enough if you're sure. Relying on chatGPT's say-so seems a little iffy, though.

Well I did google around a bit too... e.g:

 

[Raheem]

This is great for the motorist who likes to masturbate whilst easting a bacon roll, hurtling down the M5.

Or, to put it another way, "the motorist".

 

[8ball]

Well I did google around a bit too... e.g:

Just checked my sunglasses. Expensive polarised ones filtering less out than I would have expected (0.1ish at a guess, interpreting from about half perceived brightness - iffy measure but all I have), with the cheaper (and darker ones) doing close to bugger all.

Not ideal.

Edit: ignore any numbers I mentioned - seems eyes and ears don’t work too similarly re: wave amplitudes. Better to say the expensive sunnies blocked out “some” compared to the cheap ones’ “bugger all”.

Edit2: hearing in infrared is a very poor superpower

 

[hash tag]

"The origins of the group’s tactics are murky, but at some point it was discovered that placing a cone on the hood of a self-driving car puts it into panic mode, shutting down the $50,000 vehicle until a human employee can come in person to get it unstuck"

The rebel group stopping self-driving cars in San Francisco – one cone at a time

The Safe Street Rebel group has waged a war against robotaxis in an effort to end vehicle dominance in the city and promote public transport

www.theguardian.com

 

[hash tag]

Autonomous cars are nothing new of course

Spoiler: Car

 

[WouldBe]

In view of the expected weather how would autonomous cars cope with flooded roads.

 

[Throbbing Angel]

This is great for the motorist who likes to masturbate whilst easting a bacon roll, hurtling down the M5.

reminds me of this driver

 

[BigTom]

https://www.swissre.com/reinsurance/property-and-casualty/solutions/automotive-solutions/study-autonomous-vehicles-safety-collaboration-with-waymo.html

Swiss Re (insurance company) says Waymo vehicles are already safer than human driven vehicles.

Only 3.8m miles driven fully autonomously so I'm not sure how statistically significant it is but zero bodily injuries compared to human drivers at a rate of 1.11 per million miles (or on average about 4 in the same time as the waymo vehicles).

Judged against the insurer's database so matched for zip codes this seems like the best data we've had so far, although I only have the article to go on.

 

[T & P]

Ha!

Elon Musk's Tesla recalls two million cars in US over Autopilot defect

It follows investigation into crashes which occurred when firm's Autopilot system was in use.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[8ball]

Ha!

Elon Musk's Tesla recalls two million cars in US over Autopilot defect

It follows investigation into crashes which occurred when firm's Autopilot system was in use.

www.bbc.co.uk

Maybe he'll figure out that while the "crash and recalibrate" plan is all very well for rockets, it's not universally applicable.

 

[hash tag]

My first thought about this was Christine

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