Aug 27-Sept 2 Climate Camp returns to London
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Like David Dissadent, I thought the technical detail was excellent. Often beyond my level of understanding, but it was good to see it was that way, rather than simplistic and lightweight. The session I attended on alternatives to the carbon trading system was excellent. Three NGO proposed schemes, all set in the real world, i.e. trading frameworks that do not require the end of capitalism to function.
Many of the questions from the session audiences to the panels also demonstrated real depth of understanding on particular subjects. And there were some good challenging questions too.
It's basically a conference. Multiple tracks, panels, Q&A sessions - all that stuff. There's hippy stuff to be found too, but I'd say that was in the minority.
(The camp logistics also impressed me. Very organised. Reasonable loos, full water network across the whole camp, showers (cold ones I expect), five way split recycling, very very tidy. Solar charged battery array providing light & PA power for the evening sessions and the bands.)
Whilst CC isn't the sole solution for environmental activism, I think it has a role to play. I'd go again.
Many of the questions from the session audiences to the panels also demonstrated real depth of understanding on particular subjects. And there were some good challenging questions too.
It's basically a conference. Multiple tracks, panels, Q&A sessions - all that stuff. There's hippy stuff to be found too, but I'd say that was in the minority.
(The camp logistics also impressed me. Very organised. Reasonable loos, full water network across the whole camp, showers (cold ones I expect), five way split recycling, very very tidy. Solar charged battery array providing light & PA power for the evening sessions and the bands.)
Whilst CC isn't the sole solution for environmental activism, I think it has a role to play. I'd go again.
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climatecampUp to 20 campers inside rbs. On second floor too. Dressed as construction workers. More info as it arrives!
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climatecampAlso climate campers on the roof and in the windows of E.INS PR company Edelman. Naked. Go
couple of interesting tweets just in from cloimate camp.....
7 minutes ago
climatecampAlso climate campers on the roof and in the windows of E.INS PR company Edelman. Naked. Go
couple of interesting tweets just in from cloimate camp.....
climatecampUp to 20 campers inside rbs. On second floor too. Dressed as construction workers. More info as it arrives!
7 minutes ago
climatecampAlso climate campers on the roof and in the windows of E.INS PR company Edelman. Naked. Go
couple of interesting tweets just in from cloimate camp.....
So which bit of RBS have they stormed this time...? The IT bit, some random RBS Branch in the City, or some shopping centre...?
What RBS building have Climate Camp stormed previously
Well, none since my post was a bit inn-accurate. But I remember the fuss when people were trying to work out which bit of RBS was smashed at the G20 protests. And it turned out to be a branch...
Um... Nope.
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So they glued themselves to the floor? How clever of them. What if there was a fire?
Wouldn't it be a real shame if the security camera wasn't working for about an hour whilst they were given a well deserved kicking?
I suppose it makes them feel good that they've done something, even if they haven't achieved anything of any real value. Great way to grab attention to their cause, by disrupting innocent people once again.
Wouldn't it be a real shame if the security camera wasn't working for about an hour whilst they were given a well deserved kicking?
I suppose it makes them feel good that they've done something, even if they haven't achieved anything of any real value. Great way to grab attention to their cause, by disrupting innocent people once again.
Then people would use the Fire Exits.
Are they using Environmentally Friendly Glue with no nasty chemicals it then...?
Now quite bizarrely they are picketing a Tower Hamlets college.
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I'm talking about the people that had glued themselves to the floor; how would they get out? Presumably they don't have any "superglue remover" on them so they can get out instead of burning?
Most likely emergency service workers would have to risk their lives rescuing these idiots.
Most likely emergency service workers would have to risk their lives rescuing these idiots.
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Looks like today won't be the day, however
Do you think anyone actually thinks that?
It depends if they are believing their own bullshit / PR...
Interesting response on the Londonist:
http://londonist.com/2009/09/climate_campers_hit_the_town.php
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PR company spins event to make them look reasonable and protesters bad shock
Do you think that stuntism works in the context of climate change though?
I'm undecided. Greenpeace, for example, use stuntism ... but they're fairly well established.
no i think they're reformist scum who should be shot at the first opportunity, but they're our reformist scum and only we get to shoot them
cesare
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no i think they're reformist scum who should be shot at the first opportunity, but they're our reformist scum and only we get to shoot them
Ours, being?
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So disrupting the daily running of a bank means they 'deserve a good kicking'?
cesare
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if you dont know then im not allowed to tell you
I've got nothing against raising awareness of climate issues, but I don't feel especially politically aligned with climate camp, iyswim.
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So disrupting the daily running of a bank means they 'deserve a good kicking'?
They're disrupting innocent people, period. I'm pretty sure that a lot of people working at that building aren't responsible for whatever corporate decisions the people are protesting about.
Protesters doing that sort of demonstration actually don't achieve anything for their cause, don't win supporters, and 99% of the media coverage they get is simply an opportunity for further ridicule from the sensible part of society.
Health and Safety gone mad!
To be honest most workers would secretly think great we can't get into the office to do any work then skiv about smoking fags, and having a whinge about how terrible it is becuase they are so busy and work so hard.
I'm sure most of the people working at that building were absolutely gutted at the prospect of being paid to do nothing because the protesters were in their way. Really
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You didn't answer my question.....and now I have another, do people who disrupt the daily running of a bank (including the working day of employees there) 'deserve a good kicking'?david dissadent
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Bit of a protest outside Shell Centre on South Bank. Loads of police and helicopters.
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I'm sure most of the people working at that building were absolutely gutted at the prospect of being paid to do nothing because the protesters were in their way. Really
I know that the peeps working in that building simply walked thru the post-room entrance
A Dashing Blade
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Tbh, no-one was disrupted, not in the slightest.
The only reason they chose that building (rather than sites that are relevent to their cause) is because it's a big glass building in a prominant position with "RBS" plastered accross it.
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