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It's interesting hearing them talk about it. They seem to be pretty much taking it at face value, but that one comment did stand out.
 
butchersapron said:
How do you mean the middle of three things? Him mentioning changing distance and her BF and her writing a new program for where she could go?
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No, he said "it needs to be ?????, it needs to be explained, it needs to be ???". Now that I think of it I think the first was something like "recorded", i.e. for posterity.

I tried to rewind the race online but it's not bloody Cram and Foster doing the commentary! Having just flicked onto the red button it's those guys, so they must have two sets of commentators.
 
Lord Camomile said:
No, he said "it needs to be ?????, it needs to be explained, it needs to be ???". Now that I think of it I think the first was something like "recorded", i.e. for posterity.

I tried to rewind the race online but it's not bloody Cram and Foster doing the commentary! Having just flicked onto the red button it's those guys, so they must have two sets of commentators.
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OK, we'll come back to this later i'm sure, i've got to go now though.
 
In the 1940s and 50s, the great Emil Zatopek bettered the mens' 10k world record five times. Two of those world records were slower than Ayana ran today...

I don't suspect Ayana. Historically, there have always been periodic quantum leaps in mens' and womens' distance events.

Women have only been allowed to run 10k at the Olympics since 1988 and, maybe, there is still huge scope to test how far women's endurance events can improve.
 
I honestly don't know enough about it, so can only judge on the reactions of others.

It's certainly a conversation that's going on though. This from the BBC text feed was interesting:

"The Estadio Olimpico still in shock after that 10,000m final. 18 personal bests in that field. Leaders through 5k in 14.46, and then knocking out a negative split of 14.31 in the second half. A world record from a questionable era smashed by 14 seconds, by a woman racing over the distance for only the second time in her life. Remarkable."

Remarkable indeed. Expect several column miles of remarks to delve into that result.
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Medals ceremony now, point was made we saw as well as the WR we saw the 2nd, 3rd and 5th fastest times ever. That plus the 18 PBs demonstrates it wasn't just one athlete running fast.
 
KJT clears 1.92m at the first attempt, yet to have a failure :cool:

JEH with two failures at the same height, but apparently we're already into 'Brucie bonus territory' as far as her high jump expectations are concerned.

And there's her third failure, so gets 1.89m.
 
It was nice to see KJT looked genuinely pleased for Thiam when she made the jump.
great event so far
 
1.98m!! British record!

Looking ahead, if she can continue her dominance in an event like this it will be such a weapon in future tournaments, to know she's got this many points available to her in just one event.
 
Sonia O'Sullivan on RTE was openly completely incredulous about Ayana's result. She straight up said she doesn't believe it for a second. O'Sullivan, remember, had a lot of time to contemplate those Chinese world records as she was watching the athletes setting them disappear around the corner ahead of her.

Then again it is quite funny that some of the same people who take the view that a woman running 29.17.45 for the 10,000 metres is inherently unbelievable will nonetheless be presenting a man who has run 9.58 for the 100 metres as the champion of clean sports doing combat with the human incarnation of doping in a few days time.
 
To be fair, Bolt has taken tiny increments out of the WR over years at distances he's trained for his whole life; Ayana broke a WR by 14 seconds in her second try at that distance. They're slightly different cases...
 
Lord Camomile said:
To be fair, Bolt has taken tiny increments out of the WR over years at distances he's trained for his whole life; Ayana broke a WR by 14 seconds in her second try at that distance. They're slightly different cases...
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Usain Bolt's current world record, itself an improvement on his own previous world record, is the largest leap in times ever in the history of the 100 metres and by a significant margin. It's almost twice the next largest jump in the history of the event. There was absolutely nothing incremental about it. He started out as a 400 metres specialist. They both come from countries where there is fuck all drug testing.
 
I honk the difference is that this has come out of nowhere. Bolt has been exceptional since he was a kid - look at some of the performance he produced in the Jamaican school games
 
felixthecat said:
I honk the difference is that this has come out of nowhere. Bolt has been exceptional since he was a kid - look at some of the performance he produced in the Jamaican school games
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For all you know Ayana has an amazing record in the Ethiopian schools district running cup too.

The difference is that Bolt is a marketing phenomenon and a meal ticket for everyone connected to the sport. Nobody is allowed to draw any inferences from his staggering performances, the fact that Jamaican sprinting is drug riddled in general or even from his training partner failing a test.
 
Nigel Irritable said:
Usain Bolt's current world record, itself an improvement on his own previous world record, is the largest leap in times ever in the history of the 100 metres and by a significant margin. It's almost twice the next largest jump in the history of the event. There was absolutely nothing incremental about it. He started out as a 400 metres specialist. They both come from countries where there is fuck all drug testing.
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At 100m Bolt set three WRs; the first time by 0.02, then by 0.03, then a year later, in Berlin 2009, by 0.11.

In 200m he broke the WR the first time by 0.02, then again at Berlin 2009 by 0.11.

Those Berlin results are indeed a mighty large jump, but as felixthecat says it didn't come out of nowhere. I think there have been suspicions over Bolt as well, tbf, but I think the reaction in Ayana's case it's the fact there's been no indication. If it was an established athlete then there'd probably be more benefit of the doubt.
 
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