butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Thanks for your reports Dimitris.
Athens Greece: Cops murder a 16 year old
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frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
You're only allowed to shoot people for throwing stones if you've stolen their country because your imaginary sky pixie told your ancestors it belongs to you
umm who says you're "allowed" to shoot people for thowing stones then?
god how completely fucking sickening
haven't the greek police been involved in similar shit with albanians and the like?Aye.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
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So we have two men in a car.
They are in a rough area.
They are confrunted.
Police issued a statement after the shooting, saying a patrol car with two officers inside was attacked by about 30 youths throwing stones.
So we have a situation where two men are attacked by 30.
Given that a petrol bomb is a lethal weapon I don't see the problem with the cop shoting the little twat.
They are in a rough area.
They are confrunted.
Police issued a statement after the shooting, saying a patrol car with two officers inside was attacked by about 30 youths throwing stones.
So we have a situation where two men are attacked by 30.
Given that a petrol bomb is a lethal weapon I don't see the problem with the cop shoting the little twat.
There are ALWAYS people like you ready to excuse the most blatant, unashamed and extreme abuses of power.
Read the damn thread, watch the eyewitness video of the fucking shooting.
Do you think if kids had a petol bomb the police would be calmly walking away after shooting a 16 year old? He was 16 years old.
If you cant pause even for a moment to mark the passing of a 16 year old kid, then you are a cold lost soul.
Your comment actually disgusted me.
RIP
Looks like things could get even hotter - big demos planned for today and a general strike on Wednesday over government's attacks on pensions etc.
BBC report
Plus things might hot up again over the Adriatic in Italy with a big strike planned for Friday and the "anomalous wave" in the education sector still active.
BBC report
Plus things might hot up again over the Adriatic in Italy with a big strike planned for Friday and the "anomalous wave" in the education sector still active.
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
There was no petrol bomb. I repeat : THERE WAS NO PETROL BOMB. Not even stones. The ONLY thing that was thrown at them was a 500 ml plastic bottle of water. The policemen had passed from the spot a few minutes ago, heard some verbal abuse, they left and a bit further down they parked the car and returned on foot. From distance (about 50 metres) they started verbally arguying with the teenagers and one of them SHOT DIRECTLY to them, killing young Alexandros.
Today demonstrations continued and in Athens but also in other cities around Greece. Nearly all schools of Greece did not work as the pupils squated them, and then demonstrated on the streets of their town... Alexandros was a school kid, one of them, on Saturday it was Alexandros today it could be someone else... In a lot of occassions the pupils threw stones against the police, who responded with chemicals. In various cities of Greece, the youth attacked and destroyed police departments...It has been decided that for the next 3 days all schools of Greece will be closed, in memorance of Alexandros.
In Athens, big demonstrations are again going to take place today. During the day there were a lot of actions carried away, mainly attacks against police departments on different areas of Athens. The fascist group Golden Dawn, had organized an event for today near the centre of Athens, but they postponed it, because of the incidents that take place... Small groups of fascists though, are walking on the streets of Athens during the last 2 days, and are in occassions cooperating with police against anarchists.
A big demonstration has been planned for Wednesday. It was planned long before the murder of Alexandros, it is called by the worker unions for completely different reasons. Of course, after the recent events, this demo will take a different meaning. There are rumours that the worker unions have decided to postpone the demo, in fear of violent riots in the centre of Athens again, but nothing is confirmed yet.
There is a big cover up from the media. Our public TV channels, ET1 and NET (similar lets say to BBC1 and 2) are still saying that the 2 policemen were attacked, no matter the fact that on the rest TV channels, a big number of eye witnesses have said that THERE WAS ONLY VERBAL CONFROTATION. The riots and the demonstrations, are presented by the media as acts of hooligans, who have just randomly decided to destroy Athens. If you walk on the streets of Athens though, the scenery is quite different. You see anarchists, together with "ordinary" people, attacking the police with whatever they can find. Pedestrians, are trying to help the wounded, and shout with anger against the police. There is a BIG public outrage for the murder, it is not only a matter of a few anarchists destroying the whole place.
You have to understand that is not only the murder that has created this situation. During the last months, we live under economic ressesion, with big problems and trying to survive. Day after day, more and more economic scandals are coming forward, a lot of government officials, even priests (yes priests !!) in occasions have been found to gain millions of euros for their own interest. All these have made all of us very angry. Police presence in the streets, especially in Athens, during the last year is massive, and nearly everybody has a story of police abusing their power and being brutal against civillians. Immigrants have paied the price on a lot of occassions, the last dead immigrant from police was only a month ago. This murder though, was the last drop, a KID was murder, a young innocent kid, all of you that you may be parents of a teenage kid, think that it could be YOUR OWN KID, and then try to think of what would your reaction be and justify what is happening now in Greece.
COPS - PIGS - MURDERERS.
THE STATE AND THE BOSSES ARE THE ONLY TERRORISTS.
Today demonstrations continued and in Athens but also in other cities around Greece. Nearly all schools of Greece did not work as the pupils squated them, and then demonstrated on the streets of their town... Alexandros was a school kid, one of them, on Saturday it was Alexandros today it could be someone else... In a lot of occassions the pupils threw stones against the police, who responded with chemicals. In various cities of Greece, the youth attacked and destroyed police departments...It has been decided that for the next 3 days all schools of Greece will be closed, in memorance of Alexandros.
In Athens, big demonstrations are again going to take place today. During the day there were a lot of actions carried away, mainly attacks against police departments on different areas of Athens. The fascist group Golden Dawn, had organized an event for today near the centre of Athens, but they postponed it, because of the incidents that take place... Small groups of fascists though, are walking on the streets of Athens during the last 2 days, and are in occassions cooperating with police against anarchists.
A big demonstration has been planned for Wednesday. It was planned long before the murder of Alexandros, it is called by the worker unions for completely different reasons. Of course, after the recent events, this demo will take a different meaning. There are rumours that the worker unions have decided to postpone the demo, in fear of violent riots in the centre of Athens again, but nothing is confirmed yet.
There is a big cover up from the media. Our public TV channels, ET1 and NET (similar lets say to BBC1 and 2) are still saying that the 2 policemen were attacked, no matter the fact that on the rest TV channels, a big number of eye witnesses have said that THERE WAS ONLY VERBAL CONFROTATION. The riots and the demonstrations, are presented by the media as acts of hooligans, who have just randomly decided to destroy Athens. If you walk on the streets of Athens though, the scenery is quite different. You see anarchists, together with "ordinary" people, attacking the police with whatever they can find. Pedestrians, are trying to help the wounded, and shout with anger against the police. There is a BIG public outrage for the murder, it is not only a matter of a few anarchists destroying the whole place.
You have to understand that is not only the murder that has created this situation. During the last months, we live under economic ressesion, with big problems and trying to survive. Day after day, more and more economic scandals are coming forward, a lot of government officials, even priests (yes priests !!) in occasions have been found to gain millions of euros for their own interest. All these have made all of us very angry. Police presence in the streets, especially in Athens, during the last year is massive, and nearly everybody has a story of police abusing their power and being brutal against civillians. Immigrants have paied the price on a lot of occassions, the last dead immigrant from police was only a month ago. This murder though, was the last drop, a KID was murder, a young innocent kid, all of you that you may be parents of a teenage kid, think that it could be YOUR OWN KID, and then try to think of what would your reaction be and justify what is happening now in Greece.
COPS - PIGS - MURDERERS.
THE STATE AND THE BOSSES ARE THE ONLY TERRORISTS.
Rajjie
ready to be liberated?
Leftover Crack - Gang Control
I'm being hunted by paleface in blue
and these cracker, spooks are haunting you too
With municipal shovels they're out digging our graves
under threat of reprisal we are forced to enslave
Policia, policia; why can't you see
Your bullets will never pacify me
I dont fight the world; the world fights me
Cause the gang in control is the fucking PD
(That's right)
Fuck the police they're gang control
We've gotta take it back
Everyone get up and let's go
Your politrix are politi-kill
I'll take the bullet to prove that you kill
you front the facade of a "righteous man"
But the hole in your heart put a gun in your hand
Protecting the money and out serving the state
Crushing the people with the laws they create
Nothing forgotten and nobody saved
You can not break me, force me to behave
Fuck the police they're gang control
We've gotta tear it down
Everyone get up and let's go
around the globe it's outta hand
from the states to iran
across the ocean, back again
england, zaire and japan
Fuck the police they're gang control
We've gotta tear it down
Everyone get up and let's go
I'm being hunted by paleface in blue
and these cracker, spooks are haunting you too
With municipal shovels they're out digging our graves
under threat of reprisal we are forced to enslave
Policia, policia; why can't you see
Your bullets will never pacify me
I dont fight the world; the world fights me
Cause the gang in control is the fucking PD
(That's right)
Fuck the police they're gang control
We've gotta take it back
Everyone get up and let's go
Your politrix are politi-kill
I'll take the bullet to prove that you kill
you front the facade of a "righteous man"
But the hole in your heart put a gun in your hand
Protecting the money and out serving the state
Crushing the people with the laws they create
Nothing forgotten and nobody saved
You can not break me, force me to behave
Fuck the police they're gang control
We've gotta tear it down
Everyone get up and let's go
around the globe it's outta hand
from the states to iran
across the ocean, back again
england, zaire and japan
Fuck the police they're gang control
We've gotta tear it down
Everyone get up and let's go
_angel_
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There are ALWAYS people like you ready to excuse the most blatant, unashamed and extreme abuses of power.
Read the damn thread, watch the eyewitness video of the fucking shooting.
Do you think if kids had a petol bomb the police would be calmly walking away after shooting a 16 year old? He was 16 years old.
If you cant pause even for a moment to mark the passing of a 16 year old kid, then you are a cold lost soul.
Your comment actually disgusted me.
RIP
Not really surprised that he'd be condoning state sponsored child murder tbh.
Oh dear, the fluffy little cunts are all innocent while the nasty piggy policemen are total bastards.
Seen the history of the greek movement have we. Seen how they attacked banks and public buildings with fire bombs have we?
Seen their murders of policemen have we?
Still regardless of the cops and if they were right to shoot the littl efucker or not how do you justify the riots that followed.
I can se how dems may be in order but can anyone justify burning and looting shops?
How about burning out some poor sod's car and raiding banks?
In other words no one is sure yet. There will be a trial that will decide what happened but lets just destroy what we can first shall we?
Seen the history of the greek movement have we. Seen how they attacked banks and public buildings with fire bombs have we?
Seen their murders of policemen have we?
Still regardless of the cops and if they were right to shoot the littl efucker or not how do you justify the riots that followed.
I can se how dems may be in order but can anyone justify burning and looting shops?
How about burning out some poor sod's car and raiding banks?
In other words no one is sure yet. There will be a trial that will decide what happened but lets just destroy what we can first shall we?
snadge
metal alchemist
The videos of the event show clearly that the coppers walked away after the shooting.
That says it all, someone is shot dead and the perpetrators run away.
You seem to be of the opinion that seeing it was the police then they were in the right, well here is news for you derf , having yourself an orgasm every time you spew your bile is not normal, you are a surplus cunt and have proved that several times over on this board, your attitude on child labour, your attitude towards drugs and your blindness when it comes to the police, why don't you fuck off to that white supremacist site, I'm sure you would be more at home there.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Just ignore derf.
Derf- you're being a thick, reactionary cunt.
This information isnt secret- you can actually find out what the fuck you're talking about *before* posting.
E2a- people said it while I was writing.
Go ahead and set your store by murderous liars, stupid enough to kill a child in front of a crowd of people and ON VIDEO.
This information isnt secret- you can actually find out what the fuck you're talking about *before* posting.
E2a- people said it while I was writing.
Structaural
in Chatsubo
Property before people eh, you cunt. Such sympathy for nameless vehicles. Not an ounce for a dead teenager. Fuck off and die.
Dimitris
Well-Known Member
People like derf are the ones who arm the police, YOU ARE THE HAND THAT HOLDS THE GUN.... Because people like you exist, police will go on their work murdering civilians EVEN CHILDREN.
Anyone who justifies this murder, for me, is EVEN WORSE THAN THE KILLER HIMSELF.
As far as the facts, let me tell you derf that there are hundreds of eye witnesses as nearby there is the exarchia square with a lot of cafes etc, ALL SAYING THE SAME STORY. The eye witnesses that have spoken to the media are only a few compared with the ones that have gone to the police to give statement.
Anyway I am not going to go on a dialogue with a FASCIST. I am off to Athens for the demo, it starts in about an hour. Hopefully I will try to come back later tonight or tomorrow with news updates.
Anyone who justifies this murder, for me, is EVEN WORSE THAN THE KILLER HIMSELF.
As far as the facts, let me tell you derf that there are hundreds of eye witnesses as nearby there is the exarchia square with a lot of cafes etc, ALL SAYING THE SAME STORY. The eye witnesses that have spoken to the media are only a few compared with the ones that have gone to the police to give statement.
Anyway I am not going to go on a dialogue with a FASCIST. I am off to Athens for the demo, it starts in about an hour. Hopefully I will try to come back later tonight or tomorrow with news updates.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
the police fecked up admitted as such and theres been a huge inquiry. It was'nt out of the blue there had been an attempted attack and it was a feck up.
re situation in greece cops nicked awaiting trial not sure what setting light to banks achieves
I don't have a problem with it. I'm sure the car is insured and we could really do without the banking system.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Dimitris and Stella, thanks for taking the time to pass this information on, good luck.
For those asking what the riots achieve, Alexandros Grigoropoulos was murdered by those two police officers, they obviously thought they could just kill this kid and get away with it, now they and the government they represent are suffering the consequences.
For those asking what the riots achieve, Alexandros Grigoropoulos was murdered by those two police officers, they obviously thought they could just kill this kid and get away with it, now they and the government they represent are suffering the consequences.
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Do you have any knowledge of the post-war history of the Greek police, derf?
Probably not, or you'd be aware that they're as well-padded with fascists as the Guardia Civil in Spain are, and that they were just as complicit during the Greek dictatorship, as the Guardia Civil were during Franco's rule, and generally held in just as much contempt, not just by anarchists or left-wingers, but by centre-rightists and the middle classes as well.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
from the general tone of his posts i'm not sure whether he'd consider that a bad thing mate
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